convo2.23.2010

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cagedmind0531
He had read it?
forrestjones2010
hay
cagedmind0531
Word up
forrestjones2010
yo
cagedmind0531
I'm chatting with Jesse. Just saying hey and seeing what he's up to.
Apparently you got him excited about our book.
forrestjones2010
nice
he
is very excited
cagedmind0531
So let's catch you up...find the last thing you read
It's all posted to the latest master copy
forrestjones2010
looking now
cagedmind0531
It may take you a minute or two to find where we left off because I am totally clueless
forrestjones2010
k
in the city about to confront Graven
?
cagedmind0531
confront Iboga?
forrestjones2010
where do i start reading...in the city?
cagedmind0531
sure that works
Tell me the phrase of where you are starting
forrestjones2010
Iboga was a patient Etherian.
cagedmind0531
with ya
forrestjones2010
city is used 70 times fyi
cagedmind0531
lol crap
I'll make a note of it
If you want you can read through first then edit later
Since you are so far behind
forrestjones2010
right brb
k
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
yeah no edit tonight
cagedmind0531
k
I wrote quite a bit after the area where I inserted yours btw
forrestjones2010
nice work
its rockin so far
cagedmind0531
glad to hear
forrestjones2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APT-05oNfsM
this is going on the the soundtrack
cagedmind0531
Love that song
forrestjones2010
they cover it like no other alive
THIS IS AWESOME: Now it seemed everything had changed and this tower loomed above it all as some demigod bent on control. He now knew for certain that the demigod was Iboga himself.
ROCK!
cagedmind0531
haha
When he attacks I can defend you four times before my power fails. You must defeat him before that time or you are surely doomed, and I will...
This is going to be removed
I was going to make it play into the scene but it worked itself out
forrestjones2010
not quite there yet
our large statues consisting of charicatures from the runic alphabet. The four annoted; Forge, Fracture, Order, and Entropy.
NICE placement
cagedmind0531
cool
forrestjones2010
f knowledge was power then Iboga was indeed the God of Ahmphyrr.
ROCK!
cagedmind0531

forrestjones2010
ok i am down to what you posted up there
so what did you mean?
cagedmind0531
Did you read where they defeat Iboga?
forrestjones2010
not yet
cagedmind0531
k keep going
Just finish reading everything you haven't read yet
forrestjones2010
ok
cagedmind0531
What do you mean 'what did I mean'?
forrestjones2010
you posted this "When he attacks I can defend you four times before my power fails. You must defeat him before that time or you are surely doomed, and I will...
This is going to be removed
I was going to make it play into the scene but it worked itself out"
before i strted reading
cagedmind0531
Basically ignore the fact I wrote it
forrestjones2010
ok
cagedmind0531
I see what ya meant now, sorry about that
forrestjones2010
As Graven spoke so too did a bookshelf sink into the floor revealing a cage with Syrka and Gaia held prisoner.
this is mega rock on
cagedmind0531
glad you like it so far
forrestjones2010
Graven left the first move to Iboga.
hmm
i though Graven would act first
cagedmind0531
Defensive is the light side of the force!
forrestjones2010
k
oh before i forget i have a possible reason why Iconis's injections are not working
cagedmind0531
oh? I had just imagined that she died because she was fated to be the gaia tree
forrestjones2010
lost me
cagedmind0531
His injections are working. They relay the symbol for lightning to Graven
forrestjones2010
k i thought at some point in what you had written that they were not working
cagedmind0531
The only way in which they are failing is that Gaia is still dead in the future
He is trying to stop her death
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
with me?
forrestjones2010
k
this idea can be used elsewhere its an AI idea
cagedmind0531
cool, shoot
forrestjones2010
AI is seeking out people, deleting them and rewriting them out of history..
cagedmind0531
interesting
forrestjones2010
just needed to get it out there...as a potential for the future
cagedmind0531
k
And so Iboga was the first to act. Holding his hands together after forming a rune he shot forth a wave of flame that
is a tribute to D&D
dungeons and dragons
forrestjones2010
kewl
uhhh i know what d and d is bub
cagedmind0531
In d and d the symbol for casting a spell called burning hands was two hands outstretched
forrestjones2010
gravy
Hold still and face judgement."

cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
i have an idea can we discuss it briefly?
cagedmind0531
surely
forrestjones2010
We have the known exiles...
i want there to be a pool of unknown exiles
that will be accessed later
they have to be discovered
cagedmind0531
ok sounds good. I have some ideas for the Gaia tree civilization and their problems
forrestjones2010
they will be allies summoned to The Great War by Graven
cagedmind0531
what war?
forrestjones2010
just what ever we want to use them for
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
when we need more muscle we call on the unkown exiles
its a one time thing but their are many of them
tell me your ideas
cagedmind0531
we'll discuss them when you are done reading. At the least I want you caught up tonight
focus!
forrestjones2010
dang man
cagedmind0531
lol
You still have quite a bit to read
forrestjones2010
k
What is this! No! No! I should have paid attention to the witch!"
what witch?
cagedmind0531
Gaia
He's just calling her a witch. She's the one who summoned the plants
Is that not clear? I had her chanting in the shadows
forrestjones2010
it is
just the first time i saw witch
making sure i w\didnt miss something formal
cagedmind0531
nope you're good
forrestjones2010
am i caught up?
cagedmind0531
Where are you?
forrestjones2010
chapter 6
cagedmind0531
almost
forrestjones2010
are we really on Chapter 6?
cagedmind0531
scroll down past what you wrote
forrestjones2010
WOWO!
cagedmind0531
After Iboga's defeat at Ahmphyrr...
forrestjones2010
you have handled Gaia's ascension into prohetess with much grace sir
cagedmind0531
It's getting better. She takes lead over the refugees
forrestjones2010
nice
question
cagedmind0531
shoot
forrestjones2010
where is kaylx
cagedmind0531
It gets to that. Back at the commune with veyn
forrestjones2010
k
am i caught up?
cagedmind0531
Once you are done with that then yes
forrestjones2010
Dude this is fucktastic!
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
seriously this is right on
minor edit is all it needs...not much at all.../
cagedmind0531
We need to figure out how to smooth yours in a bit. I can move it further into the chapter. It should probably be right before she makes another
attempt at the eye
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
I was thinking that this 'upgrade' could more likely be a way that AI keeps tabs on Siren
Maybe even forcing her to do something against her will
got dc'd right after I said that
you respond?
forrestjones2010
i have that in there
when she is unconcouis they have dismembered her entirely
and catalogged and added homming devices to all parts
cagedmind0531
I don't recall reading that and I read it three times.
forrestjones2010
its not in what i posted
cagedmind0531
oh
forrestjones2010
it was getting long
cagedmind0531
well I need it all in order to plug it in
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
So one thing
The Iboga encounter I wrote
is too short
forrestjones2010
yeah
cagedmind0531
It needs tweaking
forrestjones2010
in what way
cagedmind0531
I mean it's just like...move/countermove, done
forrestjones2010
its set up...we can write that in later
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
we will tweak the whole thing as a long process
cagedmind0531
I've been cataloguing a list of changes that need to be made
I love the visual of Iboga being held aloft by a plant and being electrocuted though
forrestjones2010
good
cagedmind0531
I can picture it in my head
forrestjones2010
it is vivid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
i want to include not this but a similar device as a plot point for siren
another idea
cagedmind0531
interesting
forrestjones2010
what if AI manipulated emotionally fragile people that maybe they even set up to be that way to find their weapons and devices
and the Corp is behind AI
cagedmind0531
Let's try to veer away from anything that leaves too much to chance. A machine would be calculating stuff with a higher success rate
forrestjones2010
?
cagedmind0531
in regards to manipulating emotionally fragile people
forrestjones2010
ok just drop that piece of it
cagedmind0531
Ok so when do we realize Peyton is a computer?
forrestjones2010
Corp through AI needs soul and does it by seeking rare objects of power in cosmos...
dunno...when the time is right...or never
cagedmind0531
Well I was thinking to make it known to the reader but not the characters
Not fond of that?
forrestjones2010
maybe...will think about it...it doesnt have to be revealed any time soon
just need to marinate on it
does this sound like a good loose driving statement to CORP/ai/peyton?
Corp through AI needs soul and does it by seeking rare objects of power in cosmos...
cagedmind0531
reword that
the first part
One thing we need to be clear on by the way is that for right now the story is centered on the middle era, not the future
Later in the book we will center on future events etc
forrestjones2010
AI is seeking to construct for itself a soul and is attempting to do so by gathering to itself objects of power by any means necessary with the help of Peyton Sorenson, Solomon United, and Siren.
right on
cagedmind0531
That makes more sense
forrestjones2010
as we discussed i am about to dump the future and regroup with you on the "present"
cagedmind0531
I was actually just now thinking about moving your siren piece farther into the book
Chapter 7 or so
forrestjones2010
i have about 15 more minutes btw Tish needs some attention and so does Canan...fyi
thats fine
move it
cagedmind0531
That's fine. In regards to you having to go.
forrestjones2010
One of the Biggest things people liked this weekend was The Title
cagedmind0531
lol seriously?
go figure
forrestjones2010
i know
they said it made them think
what does ind mean
imagination?
cagedmind0531
Yeah I want to leave it ambiguous honestly
forrestjones2010
indian?
cagedmind0531
Don't tell them what it means
forrestjones2010
indicent
oops
i wont tin the future
cagedmind0531
I'd like to mention the book, the IND but have it nothing to do with anything
Maybe it's of some importance but still make people wonder
so ideas regarding the time of gaia
Iboga dies and becomes a wraith who haunts the forest and tries to kill Graven
He can't affect the physical world so he tries to influence other people. Or even possess them
This era needs to be about spirits
Or souls
forrestjones2010
so Chapter 6 through say 12 will be "spiritual"
?
cagedmind0531
yeah or in relation to nature, water, plants, etc
Basically spirituality and nature
forrestjones2010
ok
cagedmind0531
So the first few chapters need to deal with their evolution into human beings.
We need to tie it into the garden of eden
'Drink from these waters and you will know what it is to have a soul and therefore knowledge of good and evil'
type of thing
forrestjones2010
Ibogas Father was one of the exiles
cagedmind0531
That's interesting
forrestjones2010
he will be found and be made a leader
perhaps he is in the earth
in total isolation
cagedmind0531
perhaps he is in the forest somewhere or something
Oh when Gaia dies the Gaiasphere blooms for the first and only time
It is accepting her soul
forrestjones2010
we can figure it out...tribe wont trust him but he will end up being a great force for good
perfect
family calls...i will be back on later...bye for now...GREAT WORK jason
wow
impressive stuff
cagedmind0531
thanks
see ya later
forrestjones2010
k
sup?
will you copy paste the definition i put in for AI yesterday?
cagedmind0531
Not much dude, what's going on
forrestjones2010
i have worked hard so i get 2 hours of computer time to write
will you copy paste the definition i put in for AI yesterday?
cagedmind0531
hmmm I don't know if I have it man let me look
I can post our convo but that's about it. I don't know what to look for
forrestjones2010
yeah just post that and i will find it
thanks
cagedmind0531
posted
forrestjones2010
thanks
i am going to start building out profiles that will help us later for the visual phase
cagedmind0531
I hate how it gives me a character limit in the chat window. It's annoying
forrestjones2010
right
cagedmind0531
brb sec
forrestjones2010
k
AI:

AI is seeking to construct for itself a soul and is attempting to do so by gathering to itself objects of power by any means necessary with the help of Peyton Sorenson, Solomon United, and Siren, as well as anyone else it may manipulate.

Capable of time travel.
May be human

Driving Desire: To build a Soul for itself.
cagedmind0531
back
forrestjones2010
k
AI:

AI is seeking to construct for itself a soul and is attempting to do so by gathering to itself objects of power by any means necessary with the help of Peyton Sorenson, Solomon United, and Siren, as well as anyone else it may manipulate.

Capable of time travel.
May be human

Driving Desire: To build a Soul for itself.
cagedmind0531
I wouldn't make it capable of time travel
We already have 2 people who can use time as an asset. That is going to complicate things even more
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
So as far as what needs to be written now...The city needs to be built
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
ah there we go
no character limit
just had to reopen the window
forrestjones2010
hmmm
cagedmind0531
In the coming months Gaia became the spiritual leader of the people of the sphere tree. She helped with everything from disputes to celebrations and even lead the ceremonies at funerals. Gaia started a belief system centered around the reverance of nature and the importance of family, and though it was a hard acceptance after their reliance on machines it seemed to come more natural to the Etherians then ever thought before. After a few short months the newfound beliefs were already starting to elevate the vibrance in their pale Etherian veins. Such a consummate leader was Gaia that often Graven found that his only job was to be her support in these troubled times, for it felt as if the weight of the world were upon her shoulders alone.
While Gaia guided the spiritual life of the populace, Graven and Adahn worked to make the community liveable. According to Gaia no plantlife were to be harmed so the task was more monumental an endeavor.
forrestjones2010
i think the leadership should pass to her in a more formal kind of way
cagedmind0531
Well this is the first time anyone has led these people after Iboga. There is no one to pass it to her. She just kind of takes over
forrestjones2010
you dont think people would natuarlly gravitate toward graven because he defeated him?
cagedmind0531
Well technically they both did. She summoned the plants
you are right though, they may gravitate toward graven
At this point though, to show her divinity I figured it would be more powerful if she just came into the power through her actions
One sec let me see what I can do
forrestjones2010
maybe nothing needs to be done
i am just processing
cagedmind0531
Let me look it over. Maybe I can have Graven relenting or something
I need to insert somewhere that Veyn is going to be the baby's guardian but it just doesn't fit naturally
forrestjones2010
i think it takes allot of dialouge and allot of action for a leader to emerge
cagedmind0531
Well the thing about that is she is dying soon
forrestjones2010
i know...cunundrum
cagedmind0531
If you'll notice though I did call her a spiritual leader
That's a bit different then politics
forrestjones2010
right
true...lets move forward
cagedmind0531
You are right though, it's not as simple as just saying someone is a leader.
I'll work with it
forrestjones2010
that is something we can go back to...just note it for now...
cagedmind0531
alright
forrestjones2010
what time is beth coming over?
cagedmind0531
around 10 your time, 11 mine
forrestjones2010
k...you got me until 645
fyi
cagedmind0531
alrighty
Feels like lately all our work time is in a vice
Kind of sucks
forrestjones2010
what do you mean?
cagedmind0531
Our work time has really been limited by our significant others. Which is fine. I just wish it were easier to manage both.
forrestjones2010
i was gone out of town for the weekend
cagedmind0531
Yeah I know that. I wasn't referring to that
forrestjones2010
and yes tish is demanding of my time i agree...but she is worth it
canan needs me right now
cagedmind0531
It's not just Tish, it's Beth too.
forrestjones2010
his mom is going through another divorce
did i tell you that
cagedmind0531
Ah man that sucks. No you didn't
forrestjones2010
yeah he has been at my house allot because his mom divorced another guy
he is taking it pretty hard
so he really needs me right now
cagedmind0531
I'm sorry to hear that man
forrestjones2010
i am doing what i can for him...he will be fine in time...he just had a pretty good thing going
she is selfish
time has been short...
but it always will be it seems
just know that on my end i am always thinking about this and that i am committed
cagedmind0531
That's cool man, I understand
forrestjones2010
i hope so
despite everything...we have covered allot of ground in a short period of time dont you think?
cagedmind0531
We wrote 1/3 of a book in less than a month
forrestjones2010
i know right
cagedmind0531
What I am concerned about is not getting distracted and continuing this progress. On my end mostly
So let's work out plot points for chater 6
Ok so the city gets built with some obstacles
Not sure what they would be in a society that doesn't need water or food
forrestjones2010
lack of man power
cagedmind0531
Plus I am writing in a curse that Iboga put upon them all if they entered the forest
It's the reason they have to drink the waters of the Gaia tree. Then they turn human over time.
forrestjones2010
nice
his final nastiness eh?
cagedmind0531
Well he's not dead yet but yeah
OH and I have the perfect scene for Iboga's death
He gets the eye as he dies and it gives him a soul and that soul begins to haunt their society
forrestjones2010
the eye gives him a soul?
cagedmind0531
Because it was his purpose in life to get the eye
When he gets it he achieves his purpose
Then dies
forrestjones2010
interesting
we need a word that means gift and curse at the same time
cagedmind0531
What about Siren and Iboga allying to get the eye
forrestjones2010
that would work because Siren works for Iboga
cagedmind0531
Since when? what?
forrestjones2010
works
Since Iboga is AI
cagedmind0531
Did we settle on that? I thought we were still in the air there
forrestjones2010
yeah its still in the air
did you just have an anuyrism or something?
cagedmind0531
lol what?

forrestjones2010
did your blood pressure shoot up dramatically?
cagedmind0531
nah just making sure we were on the same page
forrestjones2010
its in the air
just back testing it
to see how it feels
it doesnt feel right
cagedmind0531
we'll figure out the AI stuff later. It will come to us
got dc'd
forrestjones2010
right
cagedmind0531
So what else
forrestjones2010
who is the focal point of 6?
gaia leadership and death?
cagedmind0531
If we can elevate her then kill her in the same chapter then sure
Gonna be tough
What if Iboga agrees to let Siren have the eye if he can have Gaia
forrestjones2010
thinking
i think iboga needs a rest
cagedmind0531
k
Kind of forget about him and make them think maybe he died etc?
forrestjones2010
i think his father and the old country may need to come onto the scene to lend credence to gaia
cagedmind0531
Ok so why does Siren kill Gaia.
forrestjones2010
before we go there do you like this idea: i think his father and the old country may need to come onto the scene to lend credence to gaia
cagedmind0531
How would he learn about them at all?
forrestjones2010
if he were one of the exiles we discussed from the unkowns
a prohet figure who comes out of hiding after the city is destoyed because this was his sign to return
ibogas brother
he left long ago because he knew he was evil at heart...he was waiting for gaia
this would establish her leadership from the outside...a third party...
its written in "The Great Book"
cagedmind0531
Would we know right away he is Iboga's father?
I like the idea but I don't like the idea of prophecies. Maybe he was waiting for his people to find a better leader or something
Question
Would you prefer it be Iboga's father...or mother
forrestjones2010
no
cagedmind0531
how is no an answer to that question
lol
forrestjones2010
you asked like 10 at one time
no is to the first one
cagedmind0531
oh! lol
forrestjones2010
it doesnt have to be a prophecy
and mother is fine
all i care about is an outside person coming in
to create dialouge
it cuts the time down by more than half if done right
cagedmind0531
Maybe it could be like "I had faith my people would survive and come out of this to great endeavors...etc"
forrestjones2010
specifically someone went into exile into complete isolation because they knew iboga was evil
mother would know
and she would know because she knows his REAL father
cagedmind0531
"I knew long ago that Iboga's path was not the path for our people, and now I have returned to see our people rise again" etc
forrestjones2010
thats it
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
mama knows
cagedmind0531
Is a woman or a man better? that was a question not a suggestion
forrestjones2010
think od madusa when you think of his mom
of
nevermind that
scratch that
cagedmind0531
ok I think I'm with you
forrestjones2010
make it clear that she chose total isolation until the city was destroyed and iboga was dead
cagedmind0531
ok so that's pretty much hammered out
what else
forrestjones2010
thats allot isnt it
cagedmind0531
um depends
we still need some conflict
forrestjones2010
5 was pure conflict...6 could be building/discovering
cagedmind0531
tru nuff
forrestjones2010
so we are both working together n the same chapter now right?
cagedmind0531
yeah I believe so
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
Ok so how many people are with these 'exiles'
Cause there are 457 people right now
forrestjones2010
we have no i dea
no way to tell
she was in total isolation
cagedmind0531
I figured she'd come with a few people, maybe 10 or so
forrestjones2010
for all we know now she is an anomaly
she is a crazy lone biatch
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
cat scratch crazy
jj
cagedmind0531
No she is not an old cat lady
forrestjones2010
she is a wise old sage
words carefully chosen
very low trust level
she will cause the herd to trust the one
somehow
cagedmind0531
I am having a hard time including all the characters in everything. As it is I am having to go back in and write in the baby
forrestjones2010
thats the joy of...screw 'em
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
use who you want
the others are just off building the city
or whatever
cagedmind0531
ok
forrestjones2010
its not like lotr
where thr group must stay together
think dominant and subordinant characters
subordinants be damned
cagedmind0531
haha
forrestjones2010
burn em at the stake
cagedmind0531
Ok so does siren come in this chapter?
forrestjones2010
you pushed her out of 5...you wanna push her outta 6 too buster?
pusher
cagedmind0531
lol no I want her to come in but what you wrote does not fit in 6
It fits as we move toward the future
forrestjones2010
whore fecal rat...why not
she is timeless
cagedmind0531
As we get closer to the future more characters will reveal themselves as we kill off others in the past
forrestjones2010
oh oh oh oh
i need to get this out
cagedmind0531
Eventually only Graven is left as we head to the future and then there will be more time and space to add people
forrestjones2010
isolation lady
her purpose is to expose the "LAW of IBOGA" as nothing more than mere elaborate curses and she has the ability to show the people in an easy way how they are dissolved...
something like that
cagedmind0531
If you are feeling so specific you may need to do some of that writing
forrestjones2010
just threwing ideas
cagedmind0531
k
Oh by the way
For your blessing and curse thing
Use an oxymoron
Like the blackest white
or something like that
forrestjones2010
brb
k
back
and yes i think i would like to write some of her piece...the lady of the woods
sorry got booted
back
back
u there?
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
k
you still having fun?
with the book?
cagedmind0531
yeah, why?
you losing it?
forrestjones2010
not at tal
not at all
cagedmind0531
I'm a little frustrated with my writing block lately. It's not so much a block as I can't get myself to write much.
forrestjones2010
i dont understan this statement
you are writing like a mad man
cagedmind0531
Well I did then I stopped for several days
forrestjones2010
which is fine
marathon not a sprint
passionate love...not Al Bundy
cagedmind0531
I just want to be a real writer. Like one who can crank out a book a year or so.
forrestjones2010
you are a real writer
threw the future tense away
you write fantasy...dont live in one
cagedmind0531
ha
forrestjones2010
you ARE a damn good writer
we both are
cagedmind0531
I just meant I want to do this for a living.
Not just for whimsy
forrestjones2010
and you will
cagedmind0531
I already know what the next book I want to write is about
forrestjones2010
cool what is it
cagedmind0531
It's about 2 brothers who fight dragons and have adventures. One is insane noticeably and the other is very mannered and temperate
The twist is
They are living in modern day New York
forrestjones2010
nice
cagedmind0531
It's called the Quixote Brothers after Don Quixote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote
Alonso Quixano, a retired country gentleman in his fifties, lives in an unnamed section of La Mancha with his niece and a housekeeper. He has become obsessed with books of chivalry, and believes their every word to be true, despite the fact that many of the events in them are clearly impossible. Quixano eventually appears to other people to have lost his mind from little sleep and food and because of so much reading
Basically an adaption of this to modern times with 2 brothers who interact off each other. The book ends in their eventual trial in modern day court
forrestjones2010
brb
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
back
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
read the blurb
cagedmind0531
blurb?
forrestjones2010
write this when you get blocked on the ind
yes your book idea
cagedmind0531
What do you think of it?
forrestjones2010
this is an older idea you have had for sometime yes?
cagedmind0531
yeah
long time ago
forrestjones2010
I like it...i think you told me about it before
cagedmind0531
Yeah I did, just figured you forgot. It was like 6 years ago or more
forrestjones2010
i rarely forget
especially good ideas
cagedmind0531
I think we're in good shape for chapter 6. If you want to write some be sure you keep it up to date and posted on the RD site
forrestjones2010
i will...i will be leaving here in about 10 minutes fyi...i am going to focus on the lady of the woods
i am becoming her now
cagedmind0531
Sounds kinky
rofl
forrestjones2010
yeah i am all menopausal and stuff
summers eve
cagedmind0531
rofl
forrestjones2010
maybe Graven will give me some
cagedmind0531
that's scary
forrestjones2010
kinda
cagedmind0531
When you write this I want you to set it up as an encounter where it integrates well into what we are already writing
Like write about how they meet her etc but try not to get too sequential so we can insert it wherever
forrestjones2010
i am going to have her come out of hiding to join the group intentionally to seek out Gaia
and Graven
introduce herself
or Graven could find her i guess
cagedmind0531
sounds good
forrestjones2010
easy cheesy
cagedmind0531
So what role is she going to have in the community?
forrestjones2010
how about iboga puts her in total isolation and she is found
cagedmind0531
either way
forrestjones2010
yeah she was under a tighter watch because she had knowledge of somekind
thats better
is ether fluid?
cagedmind0531
yes
forrestjones2010
perfect
cagedmind0531
mystical fluid
forrestjones2010
she is discovered
cagedmind0531
It's almost a gas but is a liquid. It's...etherial
forrestjones2010
she writed messages with her ether on parchment that is found
he he
cagedmind0531
interesting
forrestjones2010
consider it written she is /was a prisoner of ibogas highest concern
or high concern
24 hour survelliance
but ungaurded since the city was burned
rock
i have it
it is written sir
BAZINGA
cagedmind0531
lol
if only
forrestjones2010
no seriously i have it
its in my head
cagedmind0531
no doubt
I believe you
forrestjones2010
you shall believe...you shall believe
gotta run...boy scouts calleth
cagedmind0531
later
forrestjones2010
sup?
cagedmind0531
not muc, what's going on?
forrestjones2010
chillin
writin a little
or trying to
cagedmind0531
I wrote a bit
It was several months before the reality of the curse finally set in. All at once the village woke to screams in the night, all the refugees of Ahmphyrr developed searing burns on their upper right arms, the tattooe'd rune of the machine. It happened as if set to scripture. Gaia was uneffected as was anyone else with more cobalt in their blood then crimson. This also included Graven, Syrka, Veyn, and Adahn, all of whose blood was violet to blue-violet. But for the faded ether of the refugees the burn got more severe every day. The pain always lasting and intense, as if boring a hole into the very essence of their being.
Life continued through the use of numbing agents that Gaia had known to exist throughout locations in the forest. This slime blue concoction had the added side effect of hallucinations and often the community awoke to the screams of some night terror or vision, but anything was better then the intense pain of the curse. In the face of this horror the community suffered greatly, so much so daily life began as an exercise in distraction over solution. The people doing anything they could to forget about the pain and live their lives to the fruition of their society.
It wasn't long before the hallucinations and pain overwhelmed any sense of community that may have developed. Violence insued on such a level unseen by the culture of Etherians and tempers were on the verge of eruption every moment of the day and night. There were incidents almost daily and deaths at least every third day.
That's what I have so far
forrestjones2010
flowing nicely
cagedmind0531
I figure that will flow right into what you write about finding that woman [or man]
forrestjones2010
it will
cagedmind0531
There is a problem though
forrestjones2010
yeah
cagedmind0531
I want the cure to be drinking water from the sphere tree....but gaia isn't dead yet...
So the tree hasn't changed
forrestjones2010
that is a problem
cagedmind0531
any ideas?
forrestjones2010
thinking
make the cure an incantation from a song of gaia establishing her further as goddess
before she croaks
cagedmind0531
hmmm
forrestjones2010
mother healer
make her a complete badass
in a nice sweet way'
cagedmind0531
I think I may need to scrap the idea of curing the curse and making the human with 1 fell swoop
forrestjones2010
swoop them hoes
i though you were with beth today
thought
cagedmind0531
I am but she's giving me a little writing time.
forrestjones2010
she seems understanding
keep her
cagedmind0531
we're going bowling in a couple of hours
forrestjones2010
want me to let you go so you can write?
cagedmind0531
Nah I am stumped as to what to do here
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
I wanted the curse and turning human to be linked
forrestjones2010
i am rewarding myself with writing because i am finished work for the day
cagedmind0531
haha
forrestjones2010
writing is my incentive to hurry up and get through...it works
maybe gaia turns us human
on purpose to give us deeper emotions
deeper inner emotions and deeper inner purpose
because she sees her people as calloused and outward
cagedmind0531
What if the cure requires she sacrifice herself but she doesn't let Graven and the others know it will cost her life
forrestjones2010
and they find out later that she knew in advance
love it
martyr
instant love
cagedmind0531
I was struggling because I wanted her death to mean something
forrestjones2010
this way it will
to all
and the cure turns them human
cagedmind0531
One thing we need to have happen is I need to move Graven's future self to a time past the Scalping
forrestjones2010
switching eras
ok
cagedmind0531
So I think this works out
forrestjones2010
what we just hashed out?
cagedmind0531
yeah
forrestjones2010
it rocks
cagedmind0531
What are you naming the old broad?
forrestjones2010
Bujamaltaloc
cagedmind0531
That's peculiar
forrestjones2010
no i dont know yet
you got a name you like
cagedmind0531
hmm
forrestjones2010
how about julie smith
cagedmind0531
someone you know?
forrestjones2010
jj
cagedmind0531
Isominaya
Just made it up
or Lady Naya for short
forrestjones2010
lad gaga
lady gaga
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
just place holder that slut
cagedmind0531
What about Isominaya? don't like it?
forrestjones2010
no opinion
Coral
cagedmind0531
That works
forrestjones2010
k
easy to say
cagedmind0531
What do you think about the blue goo I made up that causes hallucinations
forrestjones2010
do it
anything that causes hallucinations rocks
i almost went to this church in austin that served DMT
this close
anywho
cagedmind0531
So in all seriousness I need to make a timeline
forrestjones2010
ok
cagedmind0531
A serious down pact time line that will be included in the book
forrestjones2010
need help?
cagedmind0531
Yeah. Not sure though. I need to go into the book. Start at year 1 from the moment they get to the tree. Then go on from there.
And we need to consistently start saying
This is year so and so
If we are doing time travel reliably it has to be this way
I don't mean flat out annotate it but casually work it in.
forrestjones2010
you dont think that is overkill?
cagedmind0531
Well...you may be right...maybe I just need to do a really really good timeline and include it in the book.
forrestjones2010
we can do it
i am not against it
i just dont want to be obligated to it like a crutch
but would rather do it like an art project after its over
if you need it we can do it though
cagedmind0531
I really think I need it for the sake of grounding and keeping out inconsistencies
The thing is we need to start catching inconsistencies now or later they will so big it will be major surgery to fix
forrestjones2010
ok...if you think we need it lets do it
cagedmind0531
It needs to be in 2 parts
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
one zoomed in to Graven's time because that's when most of the big events take place
forrestjones2010
want to make it pretty like the tree?
cagedmind0531
and another big long one that spans into the future featuring only major events
yes that would be cool
A radial design would be cool also
forrestjones2010
k
i am going to have to discuss with you at some point a structured way to divide my time between this and BP..
i am not trying to pull away from this but i need to focus on some pics for billy too
is now an ok time to talk about this for a sec?
cagedmind0531
yeah sure
I figured this would come up sooner then later
forrestjones2010
i finally got EDJones back on the right track so thats good
i just got into the book so headlong i have not done a picture in like a month
which is good and bad
cagedmind0531
Yeah I didn't wanna say anything but I figured as much
I talked to Jim about whether our project was interfering the other day
forrestjones2010
what did he say?
cagedmind0531
He said no, and that he was doing some writing at that time or something
forrestjones2010
Jim are always friends first...just like you and I are always friends first
he isnt going to say it is interfering
we have mutual respect
cagedmind0531
I figured that much
forrestjones2010
this is what i was thinking...
every other day
BP/The IND
simple enogh right
cagedmind0531
Yeah. The one problem comes from if I get stuck and need to work something out. If that happens I need your help asap so I can get back to writing
forrestjones2010
i have 2 ideas for that
one...i have a 1800 #
2 if it is between 1-5, work hours i can hit you on my cell like we have been via messengeger
how is that and i can work on bp at night
every other night
cagedmind0531
That's cool. Whatever works for you sir.
forrestjones2010
you pissed?
cagedmind0531
Nope. Promise
forrestjones2010
ok
any thoughts
cagedmind0531
How long is the billy project? is it ongoing indefinitely?
forrestjones2010
yes it is ongoing indefinitely...and when you meet Jim you will understand that Billy is just the tip of a very large strange and beautiful iceberg
we are building a machine bigger than dreamworks that i would like for you to be a part of one day
cagedmind0531
alrighty
forrestjones2010
that is if you want to be
cagedmind0531
I'm open to anything but first I want a book published. I'm 30 years old almost with no job, no degree and no prospects. This is something I need to do for me.
forrestjones2010
It will all make sense when we role to Nashville thi summer
i understand
Lets get ta writing...I can do bot effectively...I am certain...I just ask for patience...
lets role
cagedmind0531
I actually gotta go for tonight but I'm glad we were productive with this time. Get some Billy work done so we can work tomorrow.
forrestjones2010
alright man...thanks for listening
cagedmind0531
No problem seriously.
forrestjones2010
and being generally awesome
cagedmind0531

I'll message you first thing when I am free tomorrow. Have a good night man.
Message me any time by the way, I can always answer here and there
forrestjones2010
k
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