convo 2.28.10

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forrestjones2010
sup
cagedmind0531
There ya are!
Where ya be all day?
forrestjones2010
hangin with fam mostly you?
cagedmind0531
Writing. I wrote almost 3 pages.
forrestjones2010
wow
i have been drawin today and canan and i had a gig this morning
it went well
cagedmind0531
That's cool.
What kind of gig?
forrestjones2010
I played piano and he played drums he wrote the music i wrote the words
cagedmind0531
That's interesting
You online a while or just saying hey?
forrestjones2010
i am up for while...but i do have to wake up at 530
whats up
cagedmind0531
Mind just reading what I wrote right fast?
forrestjones2010
not at all where is it
i have been plotting out what i am going to write about the dissection
cagedmind0531
About to post it to RD site
forrestjones2010
k
i am going to try to email you a power point with audio just as a test will you tell me if you get it and can open it to hear the audio?
cagedmind0531
I don't have a power point program to open it
Otherwise I'd be glad to
Ok it's posted under 'The Museum' on the rough draft site
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
I could try to open that program if ya want
forrestjones2010
see what happens
cagedmind0531
k mail it to me
I emailed a couple of my old friends from high school. I think one of them will probably be a reader but we'll have to see.
forrestjones2010
nevermind
exceeds attachment limit anyway
down with tha man
cagedmind0531
ah that's lame
forrestjones2010
whore bait
cagedmind0531
I can't decide whether Siren attacks Graven or not in the museum
You'll see what I mean once you read it
forrestjones2010
reading now
wow...it is all bizarre and amazing i coundnt put it down
the building of the gaia structure was awesome
cagedmind0531
haha it was fun to write once I got into it
forrestjones2010
it souns fun
i want to go there and hang out
it would be a fun game
cagedmind0531
I could describe it a bit more but I didn't wanna linger too much since it's basically explained twice in a row
Once in the past once in the future
forrestjones2010
i liked that
because at first i was like where is she then i was like ah ha
cagedmind0531
cool so that worked
forrestjones2010
brb
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
dog attack
k
cagedmind0531
k
finish yet btw?
forrestjones2010
yes
one sitting
cagedmind0531
does she attack or not? I can't decide
forrestjones2010
when in doubt
sling some fists
cagedmind0531
The problem with her attacking is we don't want her succeeding because then what will happen with the eye and we don't want her failing because she has already
forrestjones2010
then have her return and go to the bar to destress
cagedmind0531
So we want her to attack and fail then? or...
forrestjones2010
no you have a good point
have her return
cagedmind0531
Yeah that's what I was toying with.
So you are going to write the dissection right? Are you going to make it elaborate or use it as a medium for some dialogue?
forrestjones2010
probably dialouge and some after deathe thoughts not much of that though
cagedmind0531
Ok sounds good.
So where do we transition to after the museum? Back to Graven again or...
forrestjones2010
thinking
cagedmind0531
By the way
At some point Siren needs to start suspecting Peyton isn't humna
human*
eventually anyway. Probably end of the book toward the climax
forrestjones2010
oh she knows she isnt human
she knows she is a caniving 2 faced bitch
cagedmind0531
lol
how articulate
forrestjones2010
she also knows she is much more powerful than she is
and power is the only language siren understands
kinda like a dog
brute force...and treats
cagedmind0531
lol
You really make siren out to be a 2d character sometimes lol
forrestjones2010
this is me talking to you
the reader wont ever see her that way
cagedmind0531
You can go ahead and get some rest by the way. We can chat tomorrow. I know you need to get some sleep.
forrestjones2010
i am bright eyed at the moment
took a long nap today
cagedmind0531
oh alrighty
forrestjones2010
i am drawing this bad ass pictures
2 beaked villans overlooking a river a city scape a moon and a farris wheel
cagedmind0531
So we need to discuss when the big game ending event takes place
lol cool
forrestjones2010
k
i will post it to our site later for giggles
cagedmind0531
So eventually after Siren returns they learn of the experiments failure. We'll work that into the piece you did before.
We'll transition it a bit to say 'Siren you have failed us but your payment stipulations demand we paid you for your efforts.
She gets some upgrades
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
Some pieces of her are taken away and replaced by machines. Did you give thought on how we learn about her past?
forrestjones2010
still out on that one
cagedmind0531
You don't like the surgery revealing flashes of her past?
forrestjones2010
her real past is a bit hard to reconcile to what she is doing now
cagedmind0531
What do you mean?
forrestjones2010
the surgery could work actually
siren really is a mercenary/recruiter building an army for the great war
just not in this book
she is greatly honored and respected by her people
cagedmind0531
Let's focus on what she is in this book. We could just be aware of part of her past.
forrestjones2010
she is the ifrst child of an immortal machine human race
well you wanted to know
k
cagedmind0531
Yeah I just mean for the sake of this book is it cool if she's just known as a merc who despises her human weakness etc?
forrestjones2010
sure
cagedmind0531
k
I don't mean to place restrictions on your character btw, it's just we'd have to introduce all kind of things to make her that definition that you just gave
forrestjones2010
oh i know...its all good
i dont want to take her completely out of the box anyway
cagedmind0531
Ok so soon I'll need to write her abducting Kalyx. Veyn will probably be killed.
In fact he will be killed
forrestjones2010
kill em all
cagedmind0531
We need to discuss what Graven does when his kid is taken away.
A vow for revenge is corny
and overdone
forrestjones2010
actively begins to seek siren and "the others"
screw vows
cagedmind0531
This I like
forrestjones2010
he makes a bucket list
cagedmind0531
So how does Graven pass 1000 or more years before Siren is even born
forrestjones2010
yahtzee
cagedmind0531
And when/if does Iboga come back
Oh by the way
The Ind part 2 could be Iboga's tale
forrestjones2010
we could have a graven vampire sub series
cagedmind0531
random thought
forrestjones2010
nice work
cagedmind0531
And he could glow when the sun hits him with sparklies
...
forrestjones2010
right
cagedmind0531
So in all seriousness
What does graven do with 2000 years
I figured he could off and study how to command the elements like Iboga did. Fire, water, wind etc.
Preparing for the day when he would face Siren
forrestjones2010
thinking
cagedmind0531
OH! I just had an idea. What if Graven kept those darts from the one time they were attacked and uses them to track down the date Siren came from
forrestjones2010
he learns how to make a soul
cagedmind0531
hmm...
forrestjones2010
what if graven and siren do it one day
cagedmind0531
We may need to start planning out the rest of the book. Saying what chapter what happens in.
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
cagedmind0531@yahoo.com
i mean fall in love
cagedmind0531
That may be a stretch. She's going to kidnap his kid.
forrestjones2010
true
but he may be able to manufacture souls
cagedmind0531
We need some stuff to happen before the kidnapping. At least another chapter or 2
forrestjones2010
ok
cagedmind0531
Or at least this chapter
forrestjones2010
ok
cagedmind0531
It feels like we are farther into the book then 1/3
i mean technically we are bit more then 1/3 but it just feels like we're almost done
forrestjones2010
hmmm
cagedmind0531
I'm not sure what we're gonna fill the rest of the book with as far as major plot points are concerned
forrestjones2010
it will come
cagedmind0531
Maybe I'm just being paranoid. The other day I was thinking it was too much to fit in one book
forrestjones2010
i have another book for just corals character
i have a book for gaias char.
one for siren
one for peyton
these characters are all borrowed
cagedmind0531
What do you mean 'borrowed'?
forrestjones2010
the ideas
coral is buji
peyton is phillip
siren is siren
gaia is gaia
the point is we have more than enough for a trilogy here
i have enough work for 10 books as long as you want to keep working
7 are registered with the library of congress already
cagedmind0531
I think i'm just tired.
I'm going to go to bed I think. I'll message you tomorrow
forrestjones2010
night man
cagedmind0531
Have a good night.
forr