convo 2.9.2010

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forrestjones2010
wow
verizon SUCKS
sorry
cagedmind0531
lol ok?
forrestjones2010
as you were saying
cagedmind0531
what is he ashamed of that he did in the past
I was thinking maybe he killed someone on accident. You think that works?
forrestjones2010
it could
did you have any thoughts about dimensional portals or did you get any of that
did it not send?
cagedmind0531
I didn't get it
forrestjones2010
crap
it was like 4 long entries
ok
let me see if i can retrieve it in my head
basically it is this
what if it that what they bring back is an ability to access a place inside them that is able to teach
not a material thing
but a place inside
an internal wellspring
and it was about Gaia
what if Gaia
was unbeilieving at first
but began to see her friends being changed by what was happening
and saw the sincerity of it all
and changed her mind and freely came back to the circle
and grabbed Graven by the hand and said Graven I believe
cagedmind0531
hmm
forrestjones2010
I have lived and seen the stubburness od Syrka
and I noe believe
now
cagedmind0531
Hmmm
forrestjones2010
this place could teach them to speak
among other thing
like the matrix in a way
but no comparison really
Graven could still be a teacher too
cagedmind0531
What if the crystal star he gave them is symbolic of more then what they thought. What if each prong on the star is a journey to the sphere at
the center
The sphere, symbolic of the Gaiasphere as well, is where they meet each other
forrestjones2010
that works well
and it will begin to mean many things as things progress
i think if we ground it to one physical object we are going to paint ourselves into a corner
cagedmind0531
Yeah I agree
forrestjones2010
if we leave it as a portal and NOT go crazy with it
meaning ME
not go crazy with it
i am asking you to ground me here
we will be ok
but one is a huge red flag
cagedmind0531
Are you talking about a portal they can access any time?
forrestjones2010
i am creating a document as we write and i will send you whEn we complete our first novel i have titled questions to ask yourself while writing in general?
just fyi...let me know if you want me to add anything to it
i will post it to blog from time to time too
cagedmind0531
ok
forrestjones2010
it doesnt have to be at anytime
but at certan times or at needed times in their lives
what ever works
cagedmind0531
What if it's a simple as a meeting place for all of them...as in any time they wish to seek each other it can be there...Graven could become
addicted to this plane when she dies
because she's still there even after death
forrestjones2010
yes
nice
cagedmind0531
So each item is simply a key, particular to each one, that allows them access to this plane
forrestjones2010
perfect
i think Graven needs to take someting from this event too
some new insight he did not have before
and insight into Siren because she is going to show up
maybe he discovers some way to track her that she can not understand that has nothing todo with technology...perhaps the plane
will you post this convo since i had to reboot?
cagedmind0531
Maybe axis emits some kind of beacon
yeah sure
forrestjones2010
perhaps...
cagedmind0531
We need to copyright the Ind title for our book
forrestjones2010
thats it though he takes a traking device away from this
ok...i will as soon as i can...
cagedmind0531
Ino worries
forrestjones2010
alright...i have to call it a rap for now...will be on later...i think we made great progress
cagedmind0531
Very much. Talk to ya later homey
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
word
forrestjones2010
to tha burd
cagedmind0531
You getting on later or you done for the night?
forrestjones2010
i will be on sir
i feels tha burn
what up holmes
cagedmind0531
Not much. Just writing Veyns part of the story. I wrote Syrka's already
forrestjones2010
you is on fire
cagedmind0531
ha. I have an idea for Veyn that he is paranoid because Iboga sent an etherbeast to pursue him all the way to the forest.
forrestjones2010
WELL THAT WOULD DO IT
oops
cagedmind0531
yeah I figured as much.
forrestjones2010
veyn is what mask?
cagedmind0531
Entropy
forrestjones2010
will you email me the word doc of the most up to date version
i need to get it to our most reliable reader
cagedmind0531
yeah sure. want me to finish this part first or...
forrestjones2010
sure
cagedmind0531
bout done with this part
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
Ok I'm going to post it.
forrestjones2010
k
The night flickered with the filaments of fireflies and the eyes night owls and vagrant bats of all shapes and sizes as we travelled the crooked forgotten path way to the graveyards of the hallowed grounds of the departed Etherians that had been long forgotten by the citizens of Amphyyr.
cagedmind0531
posted to 'Master Copy February 9, 2010
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
I like that
forrestjones2010
its the opening to that love scene i was telling you about
cagedmind0531
Ah ok cool.
Read what I posted when ya get a sec. Don't correct it just yet, just read it.
forrestjones2010
ok
cagedmind0531
I figure if you correct it you lose focus on whether it fits into the story. I mean people do in general not you specifically
forrestjones2010
ok
i can do either
i will read all the way
doesnt bother me either way
cagedmind0531
k cool
forrestjones2010
going theire now
so its at the top
cagedmind0531
top?
forrestjones2010
where is it?
master?
cagedmind0531
It's posted to Master copy February 9th
forrestjones2010
k'
very nice
cagedmind0531
Like?
Gaia is clostrophobic and was imprisoned by Iboga. That's her secret. She doesn't know who caged her though.
forrestjones2010
yes
sorry i was summoned away for a sec
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
husbandly duties
cagedmind0531
haha
forrestjones2010
i believe the syrka piece was much more emotionally charged
more powerfuly
oops
powerful
than the veyn piece
in comparison
cagedmind0531
Hmm. So the Veyn one needs work?
forrestjones2010
not sure
description may do the trick
cagedmind0531
Well of all of them Syrka had the worst of it.
He killed his mom
forrestjones2010
true enough
cagedmind0531
I may leave some description to you as I keep going. I have a direction
forrestjones2010
in buddism that is the second unforgivable sin
cagedmind0531
Killing your mother?
forrestjones2010
yes
kiling your father is the first
cagedmind0531
ha even buddhism is sexist
forrestjones2010
patracide and matracide
yeah i thought i found the pefect religion too back in the day
there isnt one
cagedmind0531
Everyone knows what a mobile is right?
Or do I need to go describe that
forrestjones2010
even Jesus hated religion it turns out
yes
cagedmind0531
When you get a chance try to flesh out the veyn piece
If you feel comfortable doing it
forrestjones2010
i will and i do feel comfortable...would you like me to do that before i work on that love piece?
i dont think it will get stale
cagedmind0531
yeah if ya don't mind. I'd like this part behind us.
forrestjones2010
done
cagedmind0531
Because it's strong and we don't need to dwell on it like alot of the other stuff
forrestjones2010
whats strong
cagedmind0531
This stuff about the astral plane or whatever. It was a good idea. Good job.
forrestjones2010
why thank you...as i recall you wrote it sir bob
cagedmind0531
Ever since you mentioned objects it triggered all this
So it was you
forrestjones2010
we make a good team...and this is going to happen
it is happening
cagedmind0531
haha, nice when it does
forrestjones2010
i will work on veyn now
so what do we need to close out the chapter?
cagedmind0531
hmm...have to think about it
I noticed before it was writing think writing think and now it's think think think write, think think think write
forrestjones2010
is that good or bad?
cagedmind0531
It's good and bad. It's just a change of process. We basically come up with the ideas then write a chapter in almost one sitting now
forrestjones2010
hmmm...i have not stopped to analyze it recently
i am still fascinated with vectors
i am studying finagins wake right now too
by joyce
that man was a phreak
63000 different words in one book
cagedmind0531
wow
forrestjones2010
different words
cagedmind0531
thesaurus much?
forrestjones2010
most books dont even have that many words period
anywho
oh i get to write in siren too
thats gonna be fun
cagedmind0531

forrestjones2010
she's gonna cut somebody this time
cagedmind0531
rofl
forrestjones2010
she is going to take back part of the tree with her too
what is the sphere made of?
cagedmind0531
wood I would guess, but wood that is immune to normal fire.
Basically it's the sphere when it protects itself. It is immune to almost everything
forrestjones2010
oh did i tell you she has a star gate in the middle of her aftificial pineal gland in her head
thats how she travels through time
cagedmind0531
I wrote that she had a wrist pad and a chrono-scryer earlier in the book
forrestjones2010
yeah well she just got an upgrade
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
in the lab
she uses dimethyltryptamine as fuel she stole the recipe from none other than Iboga back when he was 200
its a plant mixture
a jungle vine and berry combination
cagedmind0531
Just stay grounding turbo. Don't take off too far.
grounded*
forrestjones2010
damn it man
actually DMT is real
and it is a vine concoction
cagedmind0531
I'm not saying don't do it. I'm just saying keep it grounded to what the reader can understand.
forrestjones2010
can i write it in for the nerdy release copy?
cagedmind0531
rofl
forrestjones2010
ok we need to discuss this
who are we writing for?
who is our target audience
i am not writing for harry potter snots
cagedmind0531
Late teens early twenties
forrestjones2010
twilight
barph puke
cagedmind0531
Think 17-23
forrestjones2010
ok
say salvatorie and you are redeemed
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
oh hell it doesnt matter to me really
as long as we are making something i really dont care who sees it
gradma moses
buy it grandma
cagedmind0531
I want it to be for mature readers
If that answers the question
I am as much disgusted by Twilight and Harry Potter as you are
forrestjones2010
im good
cagedmind0531
I think we are better then that
forrestjones2010
i dont know why i asked to be honest
momentary lapse
cagedmind0531

forrestjones2010
me too
you know the way i describe how siren works like with DMT and all
i can just as easily just draw that with a picture
and no one would ever know the difference
except for a trained chemist
and i would still win
cagedmind0531
go for it!
forrestjones2010
nerd forrest gets to install his stargate
cagedmind0531

forrestjones2010
i am so doing it
siren is going to be so fun to draw
lots of trench goats and supermodels
early cristie brinkley
veyn eat your heart out
heartless pun
cagedmind0531
ROFL you said Trench GOATS
lmao
lots and lots of trench GOATS!
forrestjones2010
yep i am all kinds of messed up
never been much of a typist
cagedmind0531
nah it's cool. I haven't laughed that hard in a while.
forrestjones2010
good
cagedmind0531
I had mental pictures of goats jumping trenches
forrestjones2010
lol
i just reallized why the veyn piece seemed less evolved than syrka
syrka is twice as long
that makes sense
cagedmind0531
Oh...I didn't mean to do that
forrestjones2010
i was just copy/pasting to a word doc and realized it was shorter
i am working on it now
cagedmind0531
Done with Gaia's
forrestjones2010
wow
cagedmind0531
It's on the rough draft page, called Gaia's story.
forrestjones2010
ok...let me work on veyn for a bit i just got into it pretty good want to keep going
cagedmind0531
k
How's it going?
forrestjones2010
finishing the last paragraph and will then post
veyn is what mask?
cagedmind0531
entropy
forrestjones2010
done
cagedmind0531
cool beans
where you gonna post it?
forrestjones2010
posting on to master
will you read from
Veyn stood in front of his four peers and Axis in the center, but
cagedmind0531
Mine is just under Gaia's story
forrestjones2010
i am reading gaias story now
?
cagedmind0531
The post is called Gaia's story
I will post to master after I get this done
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
Nice stuff
forrestjones2010
bazinga
i read Gaia and i like the writing and styke as always
oops style
but there is not allot of action here
cagedmind0531
Yeah, suggestions?
forrestjones2010
question
cagedmind0531
She's stuck in a cave prisoner so not sure
shoot
forrestjones2010
iboga locks her up?
cagedmind0531
yes, she doesn't know it's him though
forrestjones2010
ok
i remember that now
cagedmind0531
Iboga has a dart gun with paralytic darts
forrestjones2010
and keep in mind that this could be that we have just been at this a while today
sweet
that bastard
cagedmind0531
Nah it's cool. Shoot.
forrestjones2010
i love ibogs
iboga
he is a good bad character
cagedmind0531
So what do you suggest we do to change the scene?
forrestjones2010
thinking
fill the cave with dead bodies
zombies and cadavers
cagedmind0531
that's pretty dark
cadavers yes, zombies no

forrestjones2010
how about a jack ass and a clown?
cagedmind0531
What if someone masked comes in and carves random people up in front of her.
jackass and a clown huh/
forrestjones2010
jj
what is her ultimate strength?
cagedmind0531
Her promise to hold life sacred and her compassion
forrestjones2010
what about most important event?
if X didnt happen then history Y would work in our future's favor
cagedmind0531
Well I want every event to be about their independent exiles.
forrestjones2010
explain
cagedmind0531
Like either why they were exiled or how they got to the forest or how they escaped
Veyn escaped Iboga's beast
Syrka was banished because he killed his mother
Not sure for Adahn yet.
forrestjones2010
k
why cant the plants here her in the cave?
cagedmind0531
It's solid rock
forrestjones2010
tell you what i think i need to sleep on this one...i dont think its the piece...i think its me
cagedmind0531
alrighty man, sleep well
forrestjones2010
i just reread it and it seems even more different this go round
anywho
cagedmind0531
It's cool we'll go over it tomorrow
forrestjones2010
sweet...so you did like what i did with veyn
cagedmind0531
Yeah I did
forrestjones2010
and the over all tone of the day?
cagedmind0531
tone of the day?
forrestjones2010
see i am tired
cagedmind0531
You mean how much we got done today?
forrestjones2010
everything we did today
yes
cagedmind0531
Yeah really good work
forrestjones2010
night sir
cagedmind0531
'See ya' tomorrow
forre