Convo February 9, 2010 8:27

cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 10:49:05 PM): You still conscious?
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 10:49:46 PM): Oh yeah....watchin tha tube with tha fam
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 10:50:14 PM): awesome oppossum
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:00:33 PM): It's 10! work time! *cracks whip* rofl
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:01:24 PM): K...be on after show is over...:-D
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:09:35 PM): on
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:09:52 PM): posting what I've written for today
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:11:27 PM): posted.
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:12:25 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:12:45 PM): I annotated all the areas that need writing. It's the stuff you wanted to write.
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:12:56 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:25:50 PM): can we connect chapter 3 to the last post for now for continuity sake...it is a bit confusing to be as it is right now
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:26:22 PM): want me to post the entire thing you mean?
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:27:08 PM): i can do it
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:27:11 PM): do you mind
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:27:30 PM): yeah let me post it one sec. I was just trying to consolidate it so you saw only the new stuff, my bad
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:27:43 PM): no prob
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:28:36 PM): Posted
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:28:54 PM): k thanks
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:29:04 PM): You finish reading it yet?
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:29:46 PM): what am i reading?
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:29:55 PM): i read the email you sent earlier today
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:30:14 PM): I think I added some to that but I'm not sure.
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:30:42 PM): I think that was most of it. The last stuff on the page is new I think
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:30:44 PM): ok i am confused
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:30:54 PM): did you rename chapter 3
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:31:03 PM): Yeah I did.
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:31:04 PM): is it the gaisohere
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:31:08 PM): or the exiled?
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:31:16 PM): The Exiled is chapter 3
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:31:21 PM): hmmm
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:31:25 PM): Chapter 4 is the Gaisphere
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:31:38 PM): Chapter 5 is Iboga's reckoning
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:32:02 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:32:27 PM): and what did you just piece together the whole thing?
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:32:41 PM): Yeah I sorted out what goes where with notes
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:32:53 PM): ?
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:33:09 PM): I placed in notes where stuff needs to be written
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:33:38 PM): so we are not using the "Master Copy" anymore?
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:34:17 PM): Master copy? what do you mean?
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:34:22 PM): sorry I'm lost
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:35:17 PM): one day i created a master compy with in the blog which we were supposed to continue to build onto...there is a search engine we can use to find it
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:35:39 PM): if there is an easier way than i am all for it
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:35:53 PM): Are you talking about posting the most recent revision on the Main Site?
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:35:56 PM): i am just not on the same page with you
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:36:21 PM): no a working copy so we dont loose any material by accident
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:36:59 PM): it looks like you have a good handle on it though with out using a mster though
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:37:03 PM): I mailed it to myself today. I posted it on the rough draft site.
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:37:05 PM): master
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:37:15 PM): Where is this master copy? I'll start using it
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:37:22 PM): yeah whatever works
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:39:12 PM): Sorry if I am seeming sketchy. Just got kind of lost by what you meant
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:39:39 PM): its all good i am looking for it now...
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:41:40 PM): http://the-ind.blogspot.com/2010/01/master-copy.html
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:41:56 PM): thought i was crazy there for a moment
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:42:01 PM): here it is
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:42:10 PM): lol Want me to post the entire revision there?
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:43:05 PM): honestly if your way works better for you it doesnt really matter to me as long as we dont loose anything
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:43:27 PM): ok cool
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:43:48 PM): just let me know what you decide
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:44:06 PM): I'll post on the MC. It only takes a second
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:44:15 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:44:33 PM): Done
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:44:41 PM): dig
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:45:12 PM): So scroll to the bottom. Did you read all I have? I think I added quite a bit after that email
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:46:18 PM): looking now
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:47:44 PM): sucking in the surrounded rubble=sorrounding
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:47:55 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:50:13 PM): Did you notice all the places I added annotating what needs to be written?
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:50:23 PM): yes
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:50:26 PM): I would not know had it not been one I have seen before."
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:50:35 PM): this is a little awkward
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:50:39 PM): k, fixing it
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:51:15 PM): I would not know had I not seen it before."
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:51:38 PM): good
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:51:52 PM): It is time to revisit my exiler.
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:52:10 PM): the...one who exiles
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:52:24 PM): Yeah I thought that was an odd word
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:52:58 PM): Graven leaves the Gaiasphere clearing and embarks upon a journey to his home to settle things with Iboga.
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:53:15 PM): lets find an alternative for journey
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:53:23 PM): agreed
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:53:24 PM): trek?
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:53:25 PM): we both use it allot
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:53:42 PM): trek is good but we have used it too
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:54:06 PM): odyssey
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:55:01 PM): to epic
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:55:29 PM): quest
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:55:30 PM): hike? trip? expedition?
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:55:33 PM): sabatical
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:55:40 PM): hike
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:55:43 PM): hike
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:55:47 PM): yes hike
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:56:42 PM): you know on second though just put whatever lets not labor over small detail just yet...this is what slowed us down last time as i recall
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:56:49 PM): thought
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:56:55 PM): i love it
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:57:04 PM): Siren gets her bomb
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:57:11 PM): that war mongering wench
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:57:14 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:58:01 PM): Why does she choose to kill Iboga. We need an explanation of why him instead of Graven
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:58:27 PM): because he is a threat to Akasha
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:58:31 PM): her God
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:58:46 PM): wait, another god?
cagedmind0531 (2/1/2010 11:58:59 PM): let's do something more tangible
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:59:11 PM): ok
forrestjones2010 (2/1/2010 11:59:22 PM): fair enough
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:00:00 AM): It's ok for there to be another god but let's wait till the technological era. Even then I want there to be a tech based religion like...what's that one that is out there today?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:00:31 AM): scientology
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:00:36 AM): tom cruise
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:00:44 AM): oprah wenfrey
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:02:07 AM): what about a chemical bridge he has discovered between his world of plants to her world of technology
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:02:28 AM): OH! what if he possesses a book about his knowledge
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:02:34 AM): a journal
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:02:52 AM): yes...he is what is called an ayahuasquero
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:02:58 AM): a who?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:03:14 AM): huasquero for short
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:03:18 AM): a what?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:04:13 AM): ayhuasca is an herba brew used by shamans to see into the spirit world
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:04:37 AM): and they sometimes claim to see technological futures
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:04:51 AM): and live lives of stars and planets
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:05:00 AM): interesting. might be hard to work that in
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:05:09 AM): not really
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:05:19 AM): I like the idea
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:05:26 AM): i know all the chemistry for it
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:05:33 AM): But we don't have a spirit world in the book yet
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:05:48 AM): We haven't established anything happening after death till gaia is born
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:05:59 AM): the tree that is, not the person
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:06:04 AM): nn dimythyltryptamime is the active ingredient
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:06:24 AM): yeah we need to keep it grounded
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:06:29 AM): moving on
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:06:47 AM): I like the idea of there being a spirit based villain in the era of gaia...
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:06:52 AM): i like the journal idea
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:06:55 AM): That's a really GREAT idea
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:07:23 AM): what is
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:07:48 AM): A villain that attacks through the spirit world. We could incorporate that ingredient thingy for that.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:08:38 AM): we will get into that later with the anthigenetics
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:08:50 AM): anthiogenetics
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:09:10 AM): We need to give Siren a check list of things she is trying to get
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:09:32 AM): Since graven has the eye she can try to get that any time. She knows Graven is still alive in her time.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:09:38 AM): good idea
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:09:54 AM): molecular explosives
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:10:22 AM): galactarean explosives
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:10:35 AM): black hole creators
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:11:11 AM): good old fashioned colt 45
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:11:18 AM): :P
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:11:44 AM): fingernail sized fusion reactor
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:11:59 AM): focus forrest
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:12:05 AM): *ropes forrest in*
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:12:11 AM): but but but you said weapons
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:12:14 AM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:14:13 AM): So do you need any help on what you plan to write? Any parts you are stuck on or questions?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:14:55 AM): nope
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:15:04 AM): im good just need to write
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:15:33 AM): k if you are ready I can leave you to it for a bit. Or we can hash out ideas. Either way.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:15:56 AM): k...i will be writing
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:16:05 AM): I'll be here
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:16:12 AM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:29:44 AM): does Adahn know about axis?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:29:51 AM): No
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:30:30 AM): hmmm so how does Graven communicate with axis in their presence?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:31:06 AM): Telepathically. Did I do that by mistake?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:31:24 AM): do what?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:32:08 AM): I guess he can talk to Axis in thought when he wants to
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 12:32:49 AM): ok thats all i need to know...that may need to be addressed in a proof read no big deal right now
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 12:33:03 AM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:01:32 AM): you told me the ages of the exiles
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:01:39 AM): ?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:01:42 AM): syrka=
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:01:50 AM): 30
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:01:50 AM): Let me find it
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:02:02 AM): Want me to change it? or tell you?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:02:10 AM): what are you working on?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:02:20 AM): no change'
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:02:38 AM): i just need to incorporate it somewhere
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:02:43 AM): I'm not working on anything right now. I just munched down on some animal crackers
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:02:50 AM): i sweet
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:03:16 AM): The 2 adolescents are 30 the youngest is 20
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:03:26 AM): any of that can be changed
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:03:32 AM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:03:39 AM): gaia is 30
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:03:50 AM): alrighty
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:03:57 AM): is that right
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:04:19 AM): who are you calling adolescent
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:04:37 AM): Both the siblings but I can change that.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:04:53 AM): and the siblings are?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:04:59 AM): Honestly it was all put down roughly as far as ages etc
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:05:17 AM): ok
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:05:25 AM): thanks
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:05:43 AM): This is the part that confuses me. Not sure who I assigned as what
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:06:01 AM): its not that important right now
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:06:06 AM): immaterial really
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:06:18 AM): thats the kinda stuff you can decide on later
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:06:34 AM): search for this sentence with office "I have been here beyond time I can recall.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:06:37 AM): i just didnt want to goof something if it was already decided
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:06:41 AM): and you remembered
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:06:49 AM): That and the pargraph 3 down
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:07:24 AM): Those 2 paragraphs really need to be ironed out. I am making a note of it now
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:07:43 AM): "From here we are near seven days journey as flows the force of the river. There is a straighter path but we may run the risk of getting lost. I am not willing to take that chance just to save time, besides in this time perhaps you can teach me of yourself and your strange family."

forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:07:55 AM): At this point Axis had become silent and still to the point Graven had taken an uncomfortable notice. He tapped on his eye as if to awaken him from a nap.

forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:08:15 AM): Axis spoke, "I am here. Did you think you would rid yourself of me that easily? No my friend I am alive and well. I simply rest when I am able and feel safe in my surroundings. I feel as if I am among old friends. Like I have known these people for eons yet they are only just born yesterday. However I will tell you that that devil woman Siren lurks in the air somewhere not far from here. She stalks you over great distance. She is a cheetah and you are a gazelle. You are her natural prey and one out of nineteen times she will catch you and she will kill you and take you as her prize back to her lair so be warned and be on guard even when I feel safe.

"How many exiles do you suppose there are Axis?", asked Graven soberly.

"That is a question better suited for your translator.",
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:09:21 AM): So far so good
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:10:16 AM): "Are you certain they can all be trusted?", asked Graven in earnest.

"They can be trusted with your very life...and Graven"

"...yes Axis..."

"....yes Gaia can also be trusted with your heart. There will in truth come a time when her heart will become larger than her destiny.", spoke Axis softly as his voice trailed off as i he were walking away into the distance

Graven again began to engage Adahn in conversation about the group and how the came to be with one another.

"Adahn tell me of the exiles. They are mere children. What society fears its children so that it curses them to the wilds to assimilate or die the green death? What human sacrifice is this? what purpose does it serve to sacrifice purpose itself. Is Iboga alone the sole banisher?", Graven felt anger rising inside
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:11:13 AM): as if
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:11:32 AM): with you so far
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:12:14 AM): rising inside his core.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:15:33 AM): Keep in mind inserting the magma beast encounter somewhere
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:16:27 AM): gotcha...i am working back stoy right now will get that in a little while
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:16:41 AM): "Iboga alone does banish now but it has not always been so. Only the seers are banished, exiled. All save Iboga who some say is a seer himself. The one seer who can not be banished. The sanctioned seer of the state.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:17:30 AM): I also was thinking a 'what if'' attaining true purpose [ether turning blue instead of red] gives graven a soul
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:17:55 AM): nice onion
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:18:06 AM): what is ibogas book called
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:18:22 AM): hmmm
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:19:00 AM): 'Of Sight and Chaos'
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:19:59 AM): In it he lists the names of all those exiled
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:21:18 AM): past present and future?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:21:51 AM): Just past and present unless you had something in mind
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:21:54 AM): this would make siren want to kill him for sure
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:22:15 AM): kill his ass and steal his book
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:22:38 AM): Yeah I am going to have her killing him once Graven shows him mercy.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:22:40 AM): wack punk ass take that from y mama
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:23:03 AM): yo mama is gonna woop that assa
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:23:16 AM): woop woop
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:23:17 AM): How does she kill him? Is she a knife or a gun person?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:23:27 AM): gunns
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:23:42 AM): and moleculac explosives
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:24:06 AM): or whore assassin
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:24:14 AM): whatever works
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:24:24 AM): lol what is with you and sex addled assassins
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:24:35 AM): its my ocd
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:25:37 AM): moving on
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:26:07 AM): that actually helps me with the chrome too
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:26:09 AM): thanks
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:26:18 AM): What does?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:26:22 AM): btw she is more refined in the chrome
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:26:34 AM): the book of exile names
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:26:44 AM): cool beans
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:27:02 AM): and the list of weapons she is looking for
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:27:19 AM): ok i am going back to writing honkey
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:27:28 AM): alright white bread
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:33:09 AM): question how much could adahn know about iboga
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:33:43 AM): He was older when exiled so he would know everything the village knows. What the elders know about Iboga.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:34:35 AM): could we have him find out more after he is exiled by spying in the woods or by accident or some other means
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:35:15 AM): hmm he could have learned something from the other kids maybe
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:35:27 AM): i want i boga to be more sinister inside and outside the village
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:36:02 AM): Yeah he needs more depth that's for sure
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:36:16 AM): for instance
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:36:52 AM): Half the village could fit the current definition of what Iboga terms as a seer because he has an alternate agenda for some of us.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:37:22 AM): after being banished we are trained
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:37:41 AM): but not formally under his direct power
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:37:50 AM): but we organize
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:37:56 AM): and we are attacked
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:38:02 AM): we attack others
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:38:09 AM): beasts attack us
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:38:15 AM): we attack back
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:38:24 AM): he creats things for us
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:38:27 AM): illusions
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:38:33 AM): real things
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:38:49 AM): he makes us go mad
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:38:55 AM): we retreat
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:39:10 AM): at the end of it all the strong ones go with him
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:39:20 AM): something like that
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:39:22 AM): hmmm
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:39:26 AM): thinking
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:40:16 AM): like he uses the jungle to test the exiles for some demented game or war he is involced in
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:40:51 AM): Yeah trying to reconcile what you are talking about with what we would have to add
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:41:52 AM): we delay graven finding out until later, a few more chapters and let things evolve...allow iboga to become increasingly sinister
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:42:11 AM): and then by this time he is ok with siren killing him
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:42:33 AM): it doesnt have to go this way...just a thought
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:43:05 AM): I like the idea of making him more sinister and a more critical character.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:44:15 AM): just mull it over...you dont have to decide now
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:44:36 AM): I like the idea but how would we impliment it is the question. We'd have to examine chapter 1
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:45:16 AM): you are right we may not want to do this
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:45:22 AM): its fine if we dont
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:45:25 AM): He could be trying to kill Taeran...Maybe he sent the etherbeast somehow
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:45:26 AM): seriously
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:46:22 AM): I honestly can't turn back now that you have had the idea. It's good, really good. Just how do we get it in.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:47:28 AM): i dont think you have to rectify anything bacwards...why cant it just carry forward
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:47:44 AM): adahn brings it to light
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:47:49 AM): and bazinga
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:47:52 AM): now we know
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:48:00 AM): depth
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:48:03 AM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:48:10 AM): bazinga
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:48:28 AM): Let's establish which plot occurs
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:48:59 AM): As far as him training people that may be a bit much. Unless we turn the village into a city. Which is easily done.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:49:27 AM): who trains people
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:49:31 AM): iboga
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:50:05 AM): I mean sending people out so that the strongest return. If that's true why would he send bombs?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:50:51 AM): thinking
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:51:24 AM): wait an idea
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:51:35 AM): Instead what if one of them is his own child
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:51:42 AM): That's pretty sinister
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:52:00 AM): one of the exiles?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:52:03 AM): hmmmm
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:52:03 AM): yeah
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:52:05 AM): go on
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:53:05 AM): What if one of them turns out to side with Iboga or he banishes his own child and punishes the mother
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:53:19 AM): randomness
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:53:44 AM): just ideas
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:53:50 AM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:54:27 AM): what if Adahn turns out to be his student and is sent as a spy
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:55:34 AM): Ok I have one idea
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:55:37 AM): small one
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:55:38 AM): i like that
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:56:08 AM): What if Axis remembers seeing the signature of Iboga somewhere else. Like the beast the night they were attacked at the camp.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:56:26 AM): That would mean that Taeran is in danger as well
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:56:45 AM): Because at that point Iboga didn't know about Graven
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:57:18 AM): refresh my memory tearan is ...
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:57:23 AM): Graven's teacher
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:57:56 AM): The one who pours water on his eye and takes him to Iboga
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:58:11 AM): Chapter 1
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:58:54 AM): lost?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:00:11 AM): no...got it
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:00:18 AM): thanks
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:00:23 AM): np
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:00:27 AM): just neede refresher
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:01:16 AM): When Iboga finally unleashes his power to fight Graven I want crazy shit hitting the fan
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:01:23 AM): Iboga is like 1300 years old
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:01:26 AM): He knows his shit
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:02:12 AM): agreed
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:02:36 AM): siren and axis will be thur too
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:03:53 AM): alright i am starting to feel like a contributer
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:04:07 AM): You always have been but I am glad you feel that way :D
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:04:24 AM): i got a page or so done
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:04:44 AM): Done for the night?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:05:01 AM): i have to get up at 6
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:05:07 AM): awe man
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:05:09 AM): get some rest
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:05:15 AM): post what you wrote
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:05:24 AM): ok
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:05:31 AM): give me a sec
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:05:38 AM): bold face it or something so I can find what you wrote
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:05:42 AM): It's hard to track down
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:11:25 AM): i bolded it
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:11:43 AM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:12:15 AM): i may get back on if i can not sleep...i feel like we made good progress today/tonight
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:12:17 AM): :)
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:12:28 AM): night man
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:12:33 AM): Yeah we surely did. Night dude.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:07:19 PM): Good afternoon sir
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:19:23 PM): Afternoon kind sir
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:20:12 PM): I rewrote the attack on the camp to happen after the visit to Iboga. So now only Taeran is left who knows about the eye.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:21:03 PM): Swing
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:21:23 PM): So that's reason for Iboga to want him dead.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:23:11 PM): Also I was thinking since it's been years that Iboga should have captured Taeran and kept him prisoner all these years.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:26:52 PM): Lost me there
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:27:43 PM): Taeran ecorts Graven to the border of the wilds. After that I am going to have Iboga capture him.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 1:28:27 PM): Gotcha
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 1:47:04 PM): You need to stop using devil woman for Siren lol
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:09:44 PM): How's work?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:15:44 PM): Its better today...i have found if I take my meds & drink copius amounts of coffee...i stay up & I am happpy;-)
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:17:32 PM): rofl whatever works
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:19:40 PM): If no I just pass the hell out
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:19:56 PM): & I am on the smallest dose
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:20:06 PM): 25 mg
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:20:14 PM): Your body will get used to it
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 2:20:53 PM): I receive that
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 2:37:08 PM): You able to work tonight?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 7:28:10 PM): BOO! What's kickin!
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 7:39:27 PM): What are you up to?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 7:40:18 PM): Not a damn thing. I haven't worked today. We need to grind out the third chapter before I can continue with the 4th
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 7:41:51 PM): Tonight its on...
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 7:42:05 PM): awesome
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 8:44:25 PM): neck bone
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 8:44:34 PM): neckbone?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 8:44:48 PM): yeah...its on like neck bone
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 8:45:09 PM): When you get a chance you need to reread chapter 1. It's changed quite a bit
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 8:45:38 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 8:46:05 PM): Soon as chapter 4 is complete we are seriously on a roll dude
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 8:47:16 PM): Chapter 3 I mean
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 8:47:49 PM): sweet
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 8:52:14 PM): did you post to master?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:00:50 PM): No, but I will right now
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:02:29 PM): posted
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:04:51 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:07:41 PM): did you highlight what you changed to save time in the reading?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:08:00 PM): Not really...oops lol
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:08:06 PM): I changed alot
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:08:34 PM): all through out the chapter?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:08:57 PM): You don't have to read it. I proofread it twice.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:09:08 PM): I just had to move quite a bit around
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:09:08 PM): i will
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:09:23 PM): just trying to understand
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:09:42 PM): did you change plot or grammar
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:09:47 PM): plot
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:10:08 PM): Basically the attack on the camp happens after the visit to Iboga now
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:10:14 PM): Which makes more sense
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:10:30 PM): gotcha,,,reading now
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:21:46 PM): How goes it?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:22:28 PM): Chapter one is freakin long...
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:22:35 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:22:45 PM): That's one reason it was hard to fix
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:22:45 PM): My mastiff is trying to eat me
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:23:52 PM): Ok....i will finish reading it later...if I don't I won't get any writing done
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:24:05 PM): No problem
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:24:12 PM): Did you get to the attack yet?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:24:23 PM): If so then don't worry about the rest
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:25:34 PM): If that dog were trying to eat you I doubt you would be typing lol
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:25:35 PM): What I read so far is great though...no...i will scan & read that part...
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:26:20 PM): Seriously don't bother. You can read it any time. We don't always get time to work
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:26:38 PM): Well I had to switch to the fone from the pc because he was getting to close to it
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:27:38 PM): Thanks...i can email the whole thing to myself at wok & print it out for a proof read...i like to proof like that anyway
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:27:50 PM): cool
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:28:34 PM): so i guess i will pick up where i left off
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:29:20 PM): Sounds good. Once you finish that chapter I can resume. No rush though. We're making great time on the novel. So long as we are doing
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:29:22 PM): 2 pages a day average we are set
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:31:00 PM): did we decide to deepen iboga to sinister organizer or did we abandon that
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:31:36 PM): So far he has imprisoned and torchered Taeran. I think that might be enough. What do you think?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:33:26 PM): did you erase some notes in the master copy where i was working yesterday?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:33:55 PM): where i stopped
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:34:03 PM): I don't remember erasing notes unless I fixed something that called for erasing them.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:34:12 PM): it said something like RESUME HERE*******
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:34:16 PM): oh
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:34:40 PM): I didn't copy that part...and when I copied it back it overwrote it I guess
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:34:47 PM): I can show you where it was though
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:35:23 PM): no i think i just found it
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:35:29 PM): "Iboga alone banishes now but it has not always been so. Only the seers are banished, exiled. All save Iboga who some say is a seer himself.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:35:33 PM): After that paragraph
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:35:38 PM): k thanks
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:36:01 PM): I still have a note there it just says [Fill in journey to tree]
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:38:19 PM): If you want to make Iboga the organizer we can work that out. If we do that then Adahn has to be a traitor and axis already said he was
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:38:21 PM): trustworthy
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:41:08 PM): no it was a thought of yesterday
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:41:44 PM):
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:42:18 PM): did you reword any of the stuff i was working on yesterday?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:43:01 PM): I think a little bit of it.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:43:11 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:43:28 PM): Just editing etc.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:43:48 PM): just thought i was going a little crazy there for a minute'
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:43:52 PM): Sorry if I confused ya. I'll note my corrections next time
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:44:03 PM): no its ok
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:45:02 PM): I think I lost my sketchbook...shit
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:45:13 PM): thats not good
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:47:08 PM): we have a continuity issue we the exiles
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:47:27 PM): What is it?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:47:47 PM): if graven is 50 and is just now an exile
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:48:01 PM): and these adolescense are 20
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:48:04 PM): and 30
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:48:18 PM): wouldnt he have known of them
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:48:22 PM): or their parents
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:48:27 PM): or their births
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:48:48 PM): or something about the exiles while still in the village
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:49:15 PM): hmm
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:50:08 PM): We knew the ages thing was going to mess with us. We can fix it any way we want to.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:50:31 PM): brb in one sec. I need to find my book
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 9:51:22 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:53:56 PM): back
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:54:01 PM): No luck. :(
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:55:20 PM): anyway back to the book.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:55:39 PM): He could have known them sure
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:56:00 PM): Or at least known their parents
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 9:57:47 PM): FOUND IT! HUZZAH! BAZINGA!
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:01:16 PM): Introducing 4 characters at the same time was bound to be problematic
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:01:49 PM): nevermind i am over it
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:01:59 PM): i will adress it in post its monor
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:02:03 PM): minor
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:02:31 PM): Yeah be sure you make a note of it because we have to iron out all these ages and relationships before long.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:04:16 PM): I am going to address that now I think since I am idle
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:05:38 PM): We need more life in the book. More insects or animals. Stuff that isn't harmful necessarily but for ambience
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:07:29 PM): First off he can't be 200. That isn't working.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:07:54 PM): More like 80 and we could simply explain that in etherian culture most families kept to themselves.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:08:43 PM): The two muscular shadows continued to walk with gravity into the thick woods as it grew darker and darker. With the last remnants of the day the misfits set up a makeshift camp near the river bank. Each chose a place that suited their disposition and need for safety. Graven placed himself where he could quickly defend everyone at a moments notice. The group ended the night around the campfire with a bit of smoke from one of the plants Gaia had formed into a dancing man and threw into the fire as she told a story with her body and hands. She entranced us with her eyes and her silent innocent story. She lulled us to sleep with the damned.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:08:58 PM): The moon that night blanched open our dreams. It whirled and sucked the cosmos into a dancing caspian karmalectrum of symphonic joy that upon waking united the group in such a way as no questions of loyalty would every be asked again. Gaia's fire dance was comon magic in an uncommon world of darkness and green shadows, seers, and technochratic nightmares. Innocence found in a place where one would be least likely to find innocence.

cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:11:14 PM): It's really strong. The poetry might be too strong when compared to the rest of the book but I really think this is your strong suite.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:11:21 PM): Establishing intimacy.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:11:59 PM): Man I used 'strong' alot in that sentence lol
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:13:00 PM): characters are usually strong and lucid almost saintlike before they die
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:13:08 PM): and gaia is about to die
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:13:18 PM): about to become a goddess
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:13:38 PM): i thought strength and nostalgia might be in order
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:13:53 PM): We need to establish that the ether in her veins is blue-violet, almost blue. Unheard of for Etherians
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:14:22 PM): Red = average purpose of a person, Blue = saint
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:15:02 PM): Gaia and Graven are both blue-violet. They almost have souls. Which means they become immortal
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:16:29 PM): Innocence found in a place where one would be least likely to find innocence. As Gaia danced the dance of fire the ether in her veins glowed a blue-violet almost pure cobalt blue near unheard of in Etherians

cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:16:47 PM): good, perfect
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:17:40 PM): There is so much that we can add to make some of the stuff already in the book better. My mind is churning
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:17:52 PM): swing
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:18:46 PM): we could finish the chapters we have and not start any new ones until we tweek everything we want to tweek from visuals to whatever
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:18:55 PM): That's a good idea.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:19:35 PM): that way we dont get to far ahead of ourselves...get overwhelmed and get frustrated and quit
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:20:02 PM): I was thinking for when we publish the book we could do so under 1 penname. Like 1 for both of us.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:20:06 PM): 1 name, 2 people
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:20:19 PM): random thought
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:20:22 PM): sounds good to me
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:20:33 PM): you can pick it make it up
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:20:44 PM): I'll give it some thought
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:20:49 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:21:11 PM): Do you want Adahn to be a traitor later in the book?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:21:43 PM): camp on it
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:21:48 PM): maybe maybe not
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:22:02 PM): I'll leave it up to you. This chapter is your baby not mine.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:31:26 PM): She lulled us to sleep with her trance-inducing mystique.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:31:29 PM): Little more clear
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:35:04 PM): fine wit me
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:38:51 PM): can axis see the future at all?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:39:10 PM): or can he only see the masks
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:39:24 PM): what all can he see
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:39:43 PM): He can touch the future but not read it. He may sense something
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:40:48 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:41:21 PM): This is a really good direction. I tweaked a few things but this is truly making me give a shit about gaia
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:42:03 PM): ah good
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:42:14 PM): and that was ma job
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:43:03 PM): After the fire dreams fade a deep restful sleep falls over the camp. The first day of the hike with Graven, Adahn, Gaia, Syrka, and Veyn has been educational and they have covered much ground to get to the stone shelter.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:43:35 PM): The day cuts open the night sky and Syrka is the first to awaken after Graven and Axis. We gather our packs and begin again toward the stone shelter at a measured pace. Adahn instructs the three with new gesture and translates Graven's latest instructions.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:44:51 PM): You have them sleeping, then waking up, then sleeping again.
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:44:56 PM): I'm fixing it though. No worries
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:45:07 PM): Just a bit of rearrangment
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:46:00 PM): yeah end of day 1 start of day 2
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:46:16 PM): Which one is Fracture again?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:46:18 PM): Syrka?
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:46:30 PM): yes
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:46:32 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:51:12 PM): Be sure not to use first person for the narrator
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:52:16 PM): We could also use a scene or two more with Syrka and Veyn. They are lifeless right now. I can add a bit.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:53:32 PM): yeah i will get them hoes
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:54:19 PM): thnks for the reminder of first person
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:54:32 PM): np
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:55:44 PM): The day cuts open the night sky and Syrka is the first to awaken after Graven and Axis. We gather our packs and begin again toward the stone shelter at a measured pace. Adahn instructs the three with new gesture and translates Graven's latest instructions. Gaia is the last to crack her eyes open to the world. Her inner life is often more vivid and real and pleasant to her than her harsh reality of exile but her spirit and joy of nature would never allow you to see into any possible sorrows. Creation combats all types of malice and the imagination wins the war. It never dies. It grows into a sphered plant with roots and wings and plants itself into immortality. Gaia can not speak but this is how she thinks and this is why Graven is fallen...

forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 10:58:17 PM): i am changing this now to a conversation bewteen graven and axis
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 10:58:35 PM): ok
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 11:03:05 PM): The day cuts open the night sky and Syrka is the first to awaken after Graven and Axis. Graven and Axis begin to speak...

"Graven, Gather your pack and begin again toward the stone shelter at a measured pace. Tell Adahn to instruct the others with new gesture and your latest instructions. Gaia is the last to crack her eyes open to the world. Her inner life is often more vivid and real and pleasant to her than her harsh reality of exile but her spirit and joy of nature would never allow you to see into any possible sorrows she has. Creation combats all types of malice Graven. The imagination will win the war. It never dies. It grows into a sphered plant with roots and wings and plants itself into immortality. Gaia can not speak but this is how she thinks and this is why you have
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 11:03:13 PM): is that better?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 11:03:51 PM): Yes. Alot better.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 11:04:31 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 11:04:51 PM): i am going to take a break for a bit
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 11:05:11 PM): that makes it hard because I almost had it corrected lol
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 11:05:15 PM): but it works
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 11:05:38 PM): ?
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 11:05:49 PM): I had almost sorted it all out into the right order.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 11:06:17 PM): sorry you lost me
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 11:07:15 PM): Don't worry about it. We're copacetic.
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 11:08:05 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 11:16:38 PM): Try to avoid having axis telling graven how he feels. I don't want him to have too too much insight into graven
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 11:16:52 PM): The reader should figure some things out ya know
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 11:22:57 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/2/2010 11:24:04 PM): i will be back
cagedmind0531 (2/2/2010 11:24:10 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 12:09:34 AM): Ok
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 12:09:35 AM): Should have allot more time tonight don't have canan or anything else going on
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 12:09:39 AM): Highschool orientation
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 12:09:45 AM): Cool.
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 12:53:09 AM): What's kickin
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:32:01 AM): Wow....i drank a half a pot of coffee last night & when I told you I was taking a break I passed out and didn't wake up until 830 this morning...
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 1:13:33 PM): What time do you normally get up?
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 1:22:25 PM): I normally get up around 1
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 1:27:46 PM): Just curious
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 1:28:30 PM): How goes work?
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 1:31:10 PM): Busy busy
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 1:37:29 PM): One thing I have thought of is Axis is a shard of Fracture and yet he isn't erratic at all.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 1:37:59 PM): Cool
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 1:38:30 PM): Something might need to be fixed. Maybe making him a shard of Order possibly. I don't know.
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 1:43:30 PM): Nevermind I figured it out.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 2:06:02 PM): Dig
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 2:06:19 PM): I am fixing all the ages crap. It was getting on my nerves
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 2:11:18 PM): Hown
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 2:11:42 PM): I'll mail it to you in a bit.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 2:18:02 PM): How?
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 2:18:53 PM): Just rewriting some paragraphs back in chapter 3
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 2:21:34 PM): When do you determine a rewrite is needed?
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 2:21:55 PM): K
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 2:22:02 PM): Not a rewrite. Just rewording a few paragraphs so all the ages and names are in sync a bit better.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 2:23:03 PM): Just in general...is a rewrite usually for general clean upn
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 2:24:05 PM): I have gray hairs now lol
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 2:25:33 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 2:28:48 PM): "What about the others? You were banished before they even were born it seems,"
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 2:30:39 PM): Up?
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 2:31:02 PM): my n sticks on my phone
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 2:31:16 PM): Trust me man, don't panic. I just fixed like 3 paragraphs and added some dialogue to clarify it.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 2:37:47 PM): I trust you implicitly sir carve away...
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 2:38:26 PM): It's all fixed. All the ages and names make sense now. I even explained why he doesn't know them.
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 2:46:25 PM): I mailed you the corrections. Everything is in blue that I fixed.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 2:47:27 PM): Dig
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 2:57:42 PM): Swing to da lefta swing to da righta swing it swing it swing it swing it swingits all nightah...
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 3:18:16 PM): You no like my shinanagins yes?
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 3:36:08 PM): I can't open attachments on my phone...will read tonight...
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 3:45:28 PM): I'm back. Had to go get some cash for bills
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 3:49:00 PM): Tish got a job today...
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 3:49:11 PM): That's awesome! Doing what?
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 3:50:45 PM): Counselor
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 3:50:53 PM): Wow that's great!
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 3:51:36 PM): It really is we have been scraping by since she quit in november
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 3:51:58 PM): Congratulations man. Tell tish I said grats!
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 4:03:59 PM): Gotcha...you working theses days?
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 4:04:22 PM): Nah, just getting social security for now but going back to school this year.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 4:04:24 PM): these
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 4:07:36 PM): Counselor
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 4:07:51 PM): Sweet...how many hours do you have...what are you gonna study?
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 4:08:16 PM): Not sure, I am going back in fall. I am either gonna major in English or Graphic Design
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 4:08:54 PM): both very cool
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 4:09:26 PM): It sure will relieve allot of stress around the house
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 4:09:30 PM): Maybe your thesis could be in lava runes...
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 4:09:40 PM): ha!
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 4:11:02 PM): I will thanks
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 4:11:25 PM): Maybe I can right a little bit more now
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 4:11:35 PM): Oops write
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 4:12:49 PM): Next time I sit down to write I want to try something different...
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 4:18:42 PM): What do you want to try?
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 4:31:31 PM): Bazinga!
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 4:35:50 PM): Tell you later...gotta run...appointmentt...
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 5:58:21 PM): Writing for a couple hours a then critiqueing
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 6:47:06 PM): I'm here whenever
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 8:15:44 PM): Swing...dig
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 8:16:09 PM): What's up homey?
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 8:53:31 PM): Headed back to beaumont from port arthur
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:22:47 PM): sup
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:23:41 PM): Not much. Painted a bit
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:24:37 PM): just read the corrections...looking good
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:25:30 PM): Yeah it's alot more clear now
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:27:04 PM): I added a bit to what you wrote
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:31:00 PM): i saw
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:31:05 PM): nice work
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:32:01 PM): Not sure if I sent you all I did. When you are ready let me know and I'll show you
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:32:20 PM): ready
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:32:52 PM): ok at the end of what you wrote I got
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:33:15 PM): let me just post that one section to the rough draft site
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:33:58 PM): Posted. Add that to what you have
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:39:53 PM): confused
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:40:03 PM): have you posted to master
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:40:42 PM): No I just posted it at the top of the rough draft site
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:40:44 PM): First post
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:40:49 PM): called Additions
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:41:04 PM): I will post it all to master in a sec after you read it
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:41:07 PM): right and you sent me an email attachment too
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:41:17 PM): aye, not sure that had everything though
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:41:36 PM): so what needs to be posted to the master
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:43:35 PM): Let me just post the master right now
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:44:36 PM): I was just trying to make it simpler by posting the only things I changed or added to...
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:44:45 PM): you rock holmes
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:46:49 PM): sorry to be a bother
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:47:13 PM): no worries
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:48:29 PM): oh you are my artist of the month btw
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:48:40 PM): for the month of february
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:49:45 PM): what?
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:49:58 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:50:04 PM): is there a reward?
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:52:07 PM): sure on every facebook and twitter post i plug your name and websites...give you lots of pr
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:52:19 PM): its great good stuff mr gaudet
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:52:28 PM): so whats our pen name?
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:53:16 PM): I didn't think of one yet
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:53:30 PM): I like Sebastian as a first name
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:54:01 PM): So did you read what I added? Just a few sentences
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:54:45 PM): i did sire and i am pleased
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:54:53 PM): groovy
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 9:54:55 PM): you have stolen my heart yet again
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 9:55:10 PM): rofl it was like 5 lines :P
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:03:28 PM): So whatcha doin?
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:04:11 PM): re reading the piece i am about to start writing on
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:04:15 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:04:25 PM): i want to get them to the stone shelter tonight
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:04:35 PM): That would be nice.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:04:39 PM): what else needs to be fleshed out in the journey to the stone
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:04:47 PM): The other 2 fellows
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:04:59 PM): so Gaia is golden
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:05:03 PM): yah
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:05:10 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:05:38 PM): i just need to kill her near the sphere or do you want to kill her
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:05:51 PM): do you want me to get them there and then you take over
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:05:57 PM): You can kill her
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:06:00 PM): Either way
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:06:24 PM): kill kill kil
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:06:31 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:06:47 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:08:35 PM): so only syrka and vyn needed to be evolved
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:08:42 PM): not adahn?
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:10:29 PM): yes
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:11:17 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:27:46 PM): i see you didnt like karmalectrum
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:27:53 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:29:45 PM): Well I liked it but I couldn't find it in the dictionary. I know I have heard a similar word but I couldn't find it
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:30:00 PM): i made it up
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:30:20 PM): ofcourse its not in the dictionary
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:30:40 PM): There is a word similar to that. I know I've heard it.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:30:54 PM): :)
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:31:24 PM): Anyway you had like 2-3 words that were made up so I cut them. So long as you have words surrounding them that make them make sense it can work.
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:31:42 PM): But you had like 3 all together and I was like...say what?
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:33:53 PM): i am just messing with you
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:34:04 PM): i aint married to none of em
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:34:40 PM): unless the letters ar hsit neosj
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:34:49 PM): are
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 10:35:00 PM): No there are alot of artist who used made up words. I am not against it. Just be sure the context clues make clear the meaning
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:35:01 PM): tishe jones
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 10:35:14 PM): gotcha
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:03:45 PM): When the group left Syrka with purpose stayed behind from the group. He had seen some broken fragments of mirror finished glass just several feet of the camp site trail and wished to gather a bundle of it for his pack for later use with out the rest of the group knowing it. Adahn begins to give an account to Graven of the group...
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:04:19 PM): wow used group 4 times
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:04:35 PM): done painting finally. you have my attention
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:04:46 PM): "Graven did you sleep well?". Adahn said with bit of a groggy voice.

forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:05:08 PM): "No, I have This solid metallic Spike in my head that talks to me and keeps me up late at night...Buggers!", says Graven.

cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:05:25 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:05:39 PM): good glad you thought that was funny
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:05:55 PM): "Yes, aside from a few strange dreams I slept fine. The Sphere tree continues to be the recurring focus of my night visions.",

forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:06:10 PM): Graven replies.

cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:06:53 PM): might wanna say volcanic glass btw
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:07:03 PM): "I am certain if there is any meaning that it will come to you in the proper time. Let me fill you in on the the report of the camp. There a few things I think you need to know that pertain to the potential safety of the overall group. Gaia poses no threat but may be somewhat fatigued and disoriented during the day as she was up most of the evening drinking her herbal concoctions and whirling around and around in circles paying homage to the goddess in the moon again nothing threatening there just may be some distraction with her today. Veyn is his normal destructive self and is actually well rested and ready to go. What i am most concerned with but not to alarmed with yet is Syrka. He has not returned from a small solo adventure he caste for himself earlier this morning before dawn.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:07:58 PM): I watched him as he left the path. He is not at all graceful or stealthy in nature yet he attempts pretense in his grandiose recountings of his own tales. He probably saw a dead bird he wanted to collect or perhaps a toad or some such thing and will return, again I do not believe it is cause for alarm. Will you travel at a slower pace until our secretive wanderer returns?", Adahn petitioned Graven.
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:08:43 PM): with ya so far
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:08:50 PM): "Ofcourse Adahn...Ofcourse...", Graven replied.

"Adahn, Has he always wandered?", spoke Graven.

forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:09:11 PM): "For as long as I have known him he has always wandered. He strikes me as silent freedom. Freedom for the sake of freedom itself. Not freedom born out of some great idea or some great oppression but freedom because there is no other alternative and no opposite. He has never known slavery Graven and therefore has never seen the necessity to see beyond good and evil because to him polarity itself does not exist nor does color or shape...only freedom. Thats why he cracks everything. He leaves these fractures all over the place." Adahn continued to inform Graven.

cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:10:04 PM): Good so far
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:10:40 PM): how much further do you want him developed
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:10:47 PM): as much as gaia?
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:11:10 PM): What you have should be sufficient. Why is he gathering glass?
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:12:00 PM): he just collects ramdom odd things to be secretive...he in unintelligent an secretive
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:12:05 PM): Also those 2 can be devloped at the tree
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:12:08 PM): and
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:12:49 PM): i am going to post what i have for now and take a breather
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:12:56 PM): Alrighty.
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:13:23 PM): Good work
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:13:29 PM): posted to master
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:13:32 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:13:35 PM): thanks man
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:13:57 PM): i like the freedom stuff i went back to the fracture mask stuff to capture that
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:14:18 PM): That's definitely appropriate
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:14:22 PM): i dont think i am going to bed yet
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:14:35 PM): don't think? :P lol
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:15:41 PM): not sure i am tired thiugh
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:15:50 PM): i gets up way earlier than some
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:16:15 PM): :P
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:16:24 PM): LOL! Smart ass!
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:16:37 PM): Use got jokes
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:16:40 PM): where is tha luv
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:16:59 PM): i wurks hard fa ma massa taday
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:17:10 PM): i gives him a full page
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:17:28 PM): rofl. You still enjoying it? I don't wanna burst your balloons
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:18:56 PM): i am loving it...i really am
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:19:04 PM): how about you?
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:19:24 PM): i just like to joke allot too
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:19:34 PM): I am. I am kind of stuck on chapter 4 though. I do have an idea of how he defeats Iboga
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:19:37 PM): does my joking piss ou off?
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:19:41 PM): Not at all
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:19:57 PM): He summons a crystal shield and reflects something back at Iboga
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:20:24 PM): i thought siren killed him
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:20:32 PM): I said defeats not kill.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:20:41 PM): hmm
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:20:53 PM): I'm still not sure though. That's the problem
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:20:57 PM): Should Graven win or lose
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:21:10 PM): Losing would be more appropriate with a dark book.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:21:52 PM): dont decide now marinad\te on it
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:21:59 PM): like a brisket
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:22:02 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:22:13 PM): brisket on the brain
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:22:31 PM): thas riaght
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:22:54 PM): This paragraph is massive
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:23:02 PM): I am going to need to seperate it somehow
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:24:13 PM): which one
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:24:36 PM): The first one
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:24:50 PM): the one i just did?
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:25:18 PM): "I am certain if there is any meaning...
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:25:34 PM): it is long
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:25:56 PM): I'll figure it out. Don't let it stifle you. I have my edit axe at hand
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:26:17 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:30:04 PM): One habit I am trying to get us in is not to use two adjectives when one will do.
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:30:08 PM): It makes it flow better.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:31:55 PM): good idea unless it keeps me from my nobel prize
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:32:14 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:32:23 PM): i am not laughing
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:32:38 PM): Why don't we use 3 adjectives per word like we did originally.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:32:51 PM): 7
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:38:15 PM): "Graven all seers by their very nature practice boundary dissolution. They literally and metaphorically dissolve boundaries of all kinds everywhere they go. Containers of all sorts can not contain them. Societies can not house them. Buildings can not wall them in. Traditions they see as pointless. Abstract concepts, inventions, novelty,random happenstance, and imagination, these are the ingredients of a seer. These are the things that landed all of us outside of the same village and these are the same things that landed Syrka outside of our rag-tag brigade. Thanks for waiting for him and feigning moving forward to save face a true seer and brother you are." and Adahn fell silen after these words.


forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:38:22 PM): silent
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:38:52 PM): You still writing?
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:39:00 PM): yup
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:40:13 PM): This chapter is getting long. I wish we had a way to end it.
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:40:35 PM): Don't forget we have the magma encounter too that I wrote
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:40:57 PM): dont get to caught up in how long or short a chapter has to be
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:41:19 PM): I'll try to not let it be a factor.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:41:21 PM): it has to be long enough to convey what yu want it to
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:41:43 PM): tru nuff
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:41:43 PM): and i think it will be over after veyn is explained
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:41:57 PM): in say what 2 pages or so more
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:43:37 PM): You were right about this paragraph. It's all 1 thought. It can't really be broken up.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:44:06 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:48:09 PM): It was not long after there conversation that Syka rejoined the group in the rear seemingly unnoticed and all was well for a time...
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:48:41 PM): with ya
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:48:58 PM): i think i am going to stop here for now
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:49:13 PM): Ok good sir.
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:49:14 PM): if you want you can flesh out veyn/entropy
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:49:22 PM): to close the ch
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:49:41 PM): I'll check it out. Running editing right now
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:49:49 PM): but i will finish it tonight or tommorow if not
forrestjones2010 (2/3/2010 11:49:51 PM): ok
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:49:59 PM): Cool. Sounds good.
cagedmind0531 (2/3/2010 11:50:15 PM): Good work man. This kind of stuff really isn't my thing.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 12:53:33 AM): night
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 12:53:43 AM): night man
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 3:57:07 PM): What's up homey
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 3:57:40 PM): My nigga what's upn
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 3:58:38 PM): I dreamt of veyn last night
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 3:58:53 PM): I made Veyn paranoid, what did you want to do with him?
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 3:59:01 PM): That happens when I am really gettinto a project
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 3:59:47 PM): I dreamt a line into the book
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 4:00:01 PM): Paranoid fits that's fine
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 4:00:57 PM): I just wrote a short paragraph saying he has a nervous twitch where he bits his nails, or polishes rocks or hones sticks and that he's paranoid.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 4:01:45 PM): Like a photograph fades to white paper plane so the universe fades to carbon...this is entropy...this is entropy...the veyn in all of us
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 4:02:41 PM): I also made him psychic a little about danger. He can sense it like a cat.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 4:04:18 PM): He gets discovered in the village early early as a child he twitches & then trances for several minutes twitches trances twitches trances
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 4:05:20 PM): In his trances he sees total destruction of all things on various scales of all kinds but cants communicate any of it
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 4:06:03 PM): hmm that kind of works with what I wrote
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 4:06:07 PM): Until some event in the distant future unlocks his vision & his language...he sees entropy
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 4:06:50 PM): Are you serious? Wow
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 4:07:15 PM): Cool I just made it up
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 4:09:01 PM): haha
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 4:09:38 PM): After this piece gets written today chapter 3 is done
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 4:10:07 PM): Yup. Just need a little dialogue after the magma beast encounter. Few lines or something.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 4:12:10 PM): Yeah I woke up at 130 so I will be up late tonight...so let's wrap that puppy up
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 4:12:23 PM): I am stoked
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 4:12:32 PM): Awesome dude
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 4:20:03 PM): I'm about to head out and get some food. I'll be back in an hour or so.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 4:21:28 PM): Dig
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 5:42:43 PM): home
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 5:48:10 PM): What's going on
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 5:51:37 PM): Not much just working like a hebrew slave
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 5:52:11 PM): I chipped the cap off my front tooth eating...It's been a shitty day
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 5:55:19 PM): Ouch
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 5:55:30 PM): Yeah I am pissed
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 6:00:50 PM): Sorry to hear about your loss
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 6:01:04 PM): Awe well. Shit happens.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 6:01:51 PM): I did that a few years ago at souper salad...
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 6:02:18 PM): I'll live I suppose. Hopefully I find a dentist fast because it feels really weird.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 6:02:58 PM): I wish runes were real & you could re write it back into existtence
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 6:03:10 PM): lol no shit!
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 6:03:32 PM): I finished chapter 3.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 6:09:37 PM): Get out
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 6:10:01 PM): Did you put the stuff I messaged you in there?
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 6:10:35 PM): No, I thought you were just voicing ideas. I didn't realize you wrote that officially
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 6:12:24 PM): No they were just ideas
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 6:12:37 PM): Its all good done is done
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 6:12:54 PM): Congrats can't wait to read it
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 6:30:24 PM): Gaia is going to die at the end of next chapter
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 6:34:27 PM): I will miss her
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 7:05:11 PM): Tear it all down & build it up again
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 7:06:27 PM): I am an empire builder...a universe maker & slayer of kingdoms...
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 7:07:52 PM): Graven can you hear the four...they are calling...
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 7:09:57 PM): I am chained to you but you alone can hear them...
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 7:14:42 PM): Sounds cool. Brb in a sec
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 7:22:35 PM): K
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 7:22:49 PM): Just doodling
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 8:00:46 PM): back, what's going on
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 8:06:58 PM): In port arthur in a meeting for an hour or so
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 8:07:06 PM): alrighty
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 8:09:15 PM): Get with you when its over
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 9:43:16 PM): Done
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 9:57:16 PM): What't kickin chicken
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 9:57:52 PM): Hey homey
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 9:58:03 PM): What's cookin
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 9:58:15 PM): Not much. Want me to post what I have?
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:00:25 PM): sup?
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:00:38 PM): I posted what I have on the Master Copy page
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:00:54 PM): sweet will look now
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:01:17 PM): I wrote some before the lava beast incident and after.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:01:52 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:02:02 PM): about veyn right?
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:02:27 PM): no below veyn
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:05:08 PM): Graven genuinely curious about his new companions.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:05:11 PM): fragment
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:05:18 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:05:19 PM): graven is
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:05:24 PM): perhaps
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:07:31 PM): Notice how I said *his monologue continued* I figured we could just play it off like Adahn is a babbler a bit.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:08:39 PM): yeah that works
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:12:18 PM): nice work sir
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:12:47 PM): will you post our convo from today on the blog?
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:13:29 PM): done
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:13:53 PM): sing
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:14:02 PM): oops swing
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:14:04 PM): You read till the end of the chapter?
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:14:09 PM): yup
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:14:15 PM): Cool beans
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:14:25 PM): Does that wrap it up fairly well?
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:14:29 PM): whatcha wanna do now
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:15:18 PM): Well as far as us waiting and consolidating what we have as far as errors and such, I think that's been done so there is no reason to loiter.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:15:51 PM): yes...do you mind if i add a little bit here and there some gaia stuff some vyn...just decorations and edit...nothing major...just cosmetic
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:16:01 PM): Sure
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:16:24 PM): Was what I edited about what you posted ok? I tried to mess with as little as possible
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:16:34 PM): i agree loiters be damned and shot
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:16:39 PM): on to chapter 4
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:16:48 PM): unless you wanna draw some pictures
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:17:09 PM): Nah we need to keep our mo-momentumum up
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:18:11 PM): Ok so chapter 4. I already have the end of chapter 4 written. What do we know that needs to happen.
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:18:21 PM): #1 Gaia dies to a runebomb.
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:18:38 PM): #2 Gaia and Graven become intimate.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:18:47 PM): siren tries to steal rune knowedge
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:19:18 PM): You mean more then she does already at the end?
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:19:57 PM): ?
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:20:08 PM): I already have her stealing a runebomb at the end of the chapter
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:20:23 PM): chapter 3?
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:20:29 PM): or4?
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:20:32 PM): 4
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:20:39 PM): no that is fine
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:20:49 PM): I already have the end of chapter 4 written. You've read it right?
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:21:04 PM): its important enough to put as a plot point
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:21:13 PM): no i have not
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:21:37 PM): It starts where you see '[What takes place below...]
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:21:59 PM): i will read that and then brb
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:22:02 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:45:42 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:45:51 PM): i have read it already...
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:46:01 PM): and it is awesomeness
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:46:04 PM): ok cool
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:47:27 PM): So anyway. About chapter 4
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:47:37 PM): yeah
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:48:20 PM): how much time do they spend here?
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:48:41 PM): time enough for love
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:49:02 PM): Em...A few years maybe. The hut gets decorated with shattered volcanic glass and vines etc
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:49:37 PM): they need to have a celebration
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:49:42 PM): some fun time
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:49:55 PM): Good idea!
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:50:16 PM): break up the heavy lifting for a bit
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:51:11 PM): Oh Gaia can figure out how to untangle the vines of the tree
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:51:39 PM): she is sasy like that
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:51:43 PM): sassy
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:52:20 PM): Should they celebrate now or find a reason to later?
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:53:55 PM): lets descibe the area and how they are all relieved to finally be there the ]n after that is done someone pipes in with rmember how back in the village we celebrated the festival of.....
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:54:32 PM): That's good. Festival of...what
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:55:26 PM): :-?
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:55:31 PM): ha
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:56:10 PM): Something alluding to the masks but not of the masks would be nice
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:56:37 PM): interesting
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:57:04 PM): how about the festival of 'ole dirty bastard
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:57:11 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:57:17 PM): no that wont work
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:58:13 PM): how about a love festival but not cheesy
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:58:24 PM): hmm
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:58:37 PM): How about one regarding Purpose
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:58:55 PM): only not using that damnable word anymore
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:59:07 PM): dont graven and gaia fall in luv?
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:59:09 PM): right
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 10:59:25 PM): love and purpose
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:59:37 PM): A story would be nice. Adahn telling a story
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:59:42 PM): Around a campfire
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 10:59:57 PM): about what is the question
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:00:36 PM): i have an idea
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:00:42 PM): shoot
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:02:54 PM): adahn tells his story about grooups being united inside and outside of their village that alludes to the micro level(the village) and the macro level(the masks...and it also alludes to Graven and Gaias union...
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:03:15 PM): I like that so far
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:03:25 PM): How unity can bring purpose
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:03:26 PM): i already have the story in my head and how it will fit and make sense around the camp fire
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:03:46 PM): it would make a good opening to the chapter
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:03:58 PM): Sounds good.
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:05:09 PM): we need a name of the place they are from
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:05:15 PM): Amphyrr
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:05:29 PM): That's what I had in my older version anyway
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:07:45 PM): K
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:08:57 PM): So tell me your idea
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:09:20 PM): this story wil add to the internal mythos of the village to deepen their culture it will add a copmponent like the mayans or nativ american indians to part of their culture
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:09:34 PM): i am writing it now
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:10:13 PM): what is it when you have a small story about the distant past with in a story?
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:10:29 PM): vinnette or some such thing?
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:10:32 PM): um...I can't think of the term right off
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:10:43 PM): oh hells whatever it is
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:10:50 PM): thats what it will be
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:11:15 PM): I need some food. Let me run to taco bell right fast. Cool?
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:12:09 PM): sure
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:12:11 PM): will have
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:12:14 PM): some stuff
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:12:17 PM): for you
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:12:22 PM): to read when you retun
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:12:28 PM): return
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:12:40 PM): I'll be fast
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:13:29 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:13:35 PM): take your time its cool
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:31:59 PM): Home
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:32:28 PM): swing
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:33:23 PM): ok i got a complete campfire myth story
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:33:32 PM): cool, shoot
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:33:48 PM): do they arrive day or night?
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:34:19 PM): hmmm night I guess
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:34:23 PM): keep in mind that all names are place holders
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:34:45 PM): Adahn tells the story as you stated at night around the cap fire
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:34:49 PM): camp fire
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:35:02 PM): it is about their early ancestors
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:35:19 PM): and how they honor them on the eve of winter solstice
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:35:25 PM): i will copy and paste
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:35:42 PM): FREEING THE HEART

and

SOUL

OF THE


AMPHYRRIAN ETHER BEING

forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:36:03 PM): It was a night like this that we travelled to the graveyards of the hallowed grounds of the departed Etherians

where we visited on the eve of every winter solstice for eons as far

back as the mind could remember.

forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:36:43 PM): Their homes could be found in the hilled country of Gelthanor between

present day Farenk and Sarek Barnadugal...

they remain scattered about as nomads near

Raifs Escarpment just fifty miles off the coast of The Dark Sea.


forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:37:17 PM): This is a retelling of the myth that follows the AMPHYRRIAN ETHER BEINGs

through the grave and into possible a

freedom.

forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:37:42 PM): Two important events took place as the land and the homes

were methodically taken from the AMPHYRRIAN ETHER BEINGs,our early ancestors.

forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:38:08 PM): The soul and heart of this AMPHYRRIAN ETHER BEING is fabled in myth to

have been perferctly seperated from one

another due to complete sorrow.

cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:38:14 PM): sorry I dc'd there
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:38:24 PM): ?
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:38:48 PM): disconnected
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:38:56 PM): which part
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:39:13 PM): let me read, I think I got most of it
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:39:38 PM): let me just post the whole thing to blog it may make more sense
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:40:03 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:40:51 PM): posted
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:40:57 PM): yeah that was easier
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:43:29 PM): It's really confusing
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:43:44 PM): I like what I read but it seems disorganized
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:44:01 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:45:52 PM): lets ditch it and move on to another opening
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:46:15 PM): I like the idea of visiting graven remains.
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:46:38 PM): Man Beth is pissing me off. She won't let me have female friends
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:46:50 PM): that sucks
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:46:58 PM): when does graven die?
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:47:03 PM): Sorry I don't mean to get distracted but she is pissing me off.
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:47:12 PM): I don't think Graven does die
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:47:28 PM): He lives on. He is presumed dead for a while but in reality he hides
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:47:42 PM): you an vent that fine
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:47:59 PM): you just said graven remains it through me off
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:48:39 PM): Yeah, at some point he may live inside the gaia tree and is presumed dead. Like his body disappears near the tree and the vines grab him and take him into it
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:48:58 PM): do you want me to clean it up...it is a rough draft you know
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:49:03 PM): i love that idea
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:49:08 PM): like she misses him
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:49:14 PM): and has to see him again
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:49:37 PM): What if the festival is like halloween instead of a happy occasion
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:49:48 PM): works for me
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:50:15 PM): There could be a legend of some etherians transcending red ether and becoming something else.
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:50:29 PM): That would play into the future spirit world
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:50:54 PM): that sounds fun
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:51:26 PM): Like someone's purpose evacuates their body once their ether is cobalt. But it never happens. It's like a myth
cagedmind0531 (2/4/2010 11:54:31 PM): there?
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:58:30 PM): yup
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:58:38 PM): had to show tish something
forrestjones2010 (2/4/2010 11:59:52 PM): whats up?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:00:44 AM): Just wanted opinions
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:01:32 AM): lets see
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:01:38 AM): the bomb
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:01:41 AM): the shit
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:01:44 AM): lets do this
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:03:23 AM): the cobalt thing reminds me of rainbow body combustion
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:03:49 AM): of what?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:04:04 AM): rainbow body combution in buddism
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:04:13 AM): is when you get to this level
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:04:15 AM): Not familiar with that
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:04:24 AM): you just leave your body
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:04:41 AM): and the only thing that is left behind is this rainbow
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:04:52 AM): imprint where your body was
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:04:59 AM): and you are off to nirvana
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:05:43 AM): I remember that now
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:06:43 AM): you never answered me
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:06:51 AM): is that piece worth cleaning up?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:06:52 AM): Sorry beth is bitching at me
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:06:55 AM): one sec
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:07:04 AM): oh you need me to let you go?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:07:19 AM): no just give me a sec
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:07:30 AM): keep going
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:07:39 AM): yeah it might be worth it
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:09:17 AM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:10:24 AM): don't go anywhere just give me a sec
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:11:23 AM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:15:09 AM): So let's figure out this
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:15:28 AM): yall ok?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:15:49 AM): Not really. She's crying.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:16:18 AM): go take care of business this can wait
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:16:36 AM): i'll be here later or tomorrow no worries
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:17:48 AM): I hate this crap.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:19:14 AM): is she there at your place?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:19:30 AM): No she's at home. I'm done with the conversation. I hung up on her.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:19:54 AM): I'd rather work on the book then argue with her. That's the truth.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:20:03 AM): ok
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:21:12 AM): Ok so what type of story do we want that would make for a halloween type of celebration
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:21:21 AM): Not costumes or anything just dark.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:22:09 AM): on the eve of winter solstice they honor their dead
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:22:34 AM): they have ruins like the maya and inca
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:22:47 AM): and they dont know where they went
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:23:53 AM): hmmm
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:24:29 AM): gaia teaches them all a dance of honor
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:25:18 AM): thinking
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:26:25 AM): I'm thinking that maybe you were right to begin with. A celebration might be more appropriate for them all finding each other.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:26:30 AM): This kind of seems against the mood
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:27:55 AM): so like an impromptu celebration?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:28:05 AM): I don't know yet. Something
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:28:23 AM): hey everybody is ok suarey
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:29:20 AM): ring around the rosey hey no body \'s dead
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:29:26 AM): yet
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:31:58 AM): I'm stuck
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:32:49 AM): your chi is discombobulated
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:34:10 AM): have you read it from beginning to end yet?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:34:56 AM): Not in 1 sitting
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:35:19 AM): me neither i think i want to
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:37:57 AM): I am seriously stuck. I can't sort anything out right now and I am not even remotely tired
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:40:03 AM): dont force it revit it later
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:40:08 AM): revisit
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:40:38 AM): ok so let's break down the chapter again
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:40:47 AM): 1.Gaia Dies
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:40:54 AM): 2.Graven and gaia fall in love
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:41:09 AM): draw paint
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:41:10 AM): 3 They celebrate finding each other and reaching the tree safely
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:41:15 AM): Siren rune bomb
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:41:28 AM): 4 Siren gets rune bomb
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:42:02 AM): What if they choose to celebrate by decorating the hut and then a few days later there is a festival or something
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:42:40 AM): ok realistically
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:42:54 AM): if they are traumatized by lava
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:43:03 AM): and barely escaping
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:43:52 AM): they are happth they are alive and want to reat for a while
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:43:52 AM): be safe rest decorate celebrate
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:44:07 AM): That sounds promising
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:44:20 AM): They also need daily rituals
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:44:32 AM): Stuff they do every day...habits...rituals
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:44:46 AM): Maybe play a game
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:45:11 AM): Maybe like hide and see with Gaia rooting people
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:45:12 AM): someone needs to mark time
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:45:15 AM): count days
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:45:29 AM): seek*
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:45:35 AM): Adahn could do that
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:45:40 AM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:45:57 AM): OH! what about celebrating the birth of a new calendar
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:46:13 AM): Their arrival is seen as day 1
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:46:15 AM): guard
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:46:28 AM): now we are talking
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:46:37 AM): love the calendar
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:46:49 AM): new era
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:47:13 AM): The Gaian Age after she dies
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:48:34 AM): So Adahn could tell the story of the birth of their last calendar one night. Then they could decide to start one of their own.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:49:10 AM): yes!
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:49:52 AM): The founding of their last village could be that date
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:51:50 AM): What would cause a group that was once nomads to suddenly stop being nomads and make a home.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:52:40 AM): domestication of cattle and the planting of crops
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:53:04 AM): What about the birth of 4 children at once
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:53:18 AM): Have we killed the number yet?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:54:01 AM): lost me
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:54:22 AM): What if it was a group of say 20 people and 4 women were pregnant at the same time.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:54:39 AM): That would possibly make them want to stop wandering right?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:54:51 AM): Random thought
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:55:20 AM): the women temporarily but not the men
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:55:28 AM): hmm
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:55:38 AM): Well they don't eat or drink
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:56:03 AM): If they made the city for safety that would be appropriate
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:56:09 AM): yeah thats jacked
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:56:17 AM): it messes with me allot
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:56:53 AM): What if they got attacked by something or a group of somethings and that made them decide they needed a safe place
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:57:05 AM): so many things of daily life are centered around it i have notived
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:57:22 AM): that could work
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:57:57 AM): Ok so the so-and-so tribe were wanderers until the onset of whose-a-ma-whats which attacked them.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 12:58:02 AM): wht if all their babies were dying in a certin place
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:58:58 AM): hmmm...like what if they could find no purpose in wandering and instead found it in a community
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 12:59:08 AM): and before people were dying
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:00:04 AM): ok while wandering the babies were all being still born
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:00:19 AM): when commuities were formed they began to live
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:00:37 AM): because they now found purpose within the group
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:00:46 AM): That's good! So it tells the story of how they came to rely on each other for safety and friendship
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:00:55 AM): and in that found reason to live
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:01:06 AM): lets roll
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:01:19 AM): We need to remind the reader they don't need to eat or drink
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:01:29 AM): subtly
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:01:31 AM): we do
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:01:55 AM): the festival of the night wanderer
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:02:16 AM): I like that...only the Festival of the Night Wanderer(s)
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:02:22 AM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:02:58 AM): And so the people of so and so wandered, lost and without purpose or heart.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:03:28 AM): Slowly the lost begin to find each other, and in doing so found themselves.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:04:43 AM): They looked into each other and the sight comforted them and with each new heart their ether brightened.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:05:24 AM): i am liking this direction
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:05:57 AM): The community became the soul of the etherial [insert word for purpose here]
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:07:33 AM): what about current for purpose
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:07:38 AM): as in the current of a river
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:08:02 AM): The current in Graven burned bright etc etc
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:09:06 AM): current is good
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:09:14 AM): fillament
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:09:24 AM): I like that one too
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:09:33 AM): coil
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:09:34 AM): heat
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:10:29 AM): which do you like best so far?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:12:35 AM): does it have to be just one?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:13:35 AM): How would we let the reader know?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:15:24 AM): thinking
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:16:29 AM): The ether burning in their veins, also known as filament or current, was synonamous with the purpose that allowed them to prosper.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:17:02 AM): perfect
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:17:18 AM): We need to insert this somewhere earlier in the book
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:17:27 AM): Where is the question...
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:18:38 AM): i agree
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:21:21 AM): I've got it. We never described Graven
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:21:38 AM): We can write a paragraph about him and relay that info at the same time.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:24:13 AM): Where to put it though is still the question
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:24:54 AM): I don't want to put it before the first paragraph. Blazing alight in the summer night is a good start
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 1:31:08 AM): There?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 2:12:28 AM): yeah
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 2:15:27 AM): where'd ya go :P
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 2:27:07 AM): Guess I'm off to bed if you are lights out good sir.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 2:28:07 AM): yeah i need to run s ]
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 2:28:15 AM): Alrighty man. Night
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 2:29:33 AM): post convo pkease?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 1:55:59 PM): And fracture covered her eyes with 1000 microscales of pure silver & vanished as she faded invisible into the black technilogical mechanistic landscape
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 2:28:29 PM): Undetected by her persuers
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 3:05:56 PM): What's kickin chicken?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 4:16:08 PM): U there?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 5:11:47 PM): I'm here now
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 5:12:30 PM): Morning sunshine...
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 5:15:01 PM): I couldn't sleep last night and when I did I had to wake up at 7 and call dentists. So I couldn't go back to sleep either, sucked
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 5:15:36 PM): That does suck
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 5:19:05 PM): Did you find a dentist
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 5:20:33 PM): No I didn't. None take my insurance. Even the ones in the insurance book...I will have to call monday
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 5:23:20 PM): Darn...
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 5:23:31 PM): Yeah it was a bad morning
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 5:24:58 PM): How's your day going sir?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 5:37:07 PM): So so....going to pick up canan
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 5:44:28 PM): You busy tonight or going to be able to do some work?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 5:51:45 PM): I can do some stuff canan will have a friend over
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 5:51:54 PM): Cool
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 6:38:33 PM): I wrote a page or so.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 6:39:58 PM):


























































































































you are my special friend :-D

cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 6:40:28 PM): lol cornball
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 6:48:30 PM): I know but some things just have to be said
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:04:54 PM): written about 2 pages
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:12:27 PM): :-D
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:12:59 PM): I think it's really good too. When will you have a chance to read it?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:14:02 PM): Modest .
Mouse are we
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:14:11 PM): Getting on now
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:15:40 PM): Posted to master copy
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:16:05 PM): Sweet
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:28:44 PM): whatcha think?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:28:54 PM): reading now
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:33:16 PM): wicked rage
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:33:26 PM): wicked rage?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:33:48 PM): uh bitcin
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:33:54 PM): good job
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:33:58 PM): Cool beans
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:34:20 PM): the normal atta boy stuff realy doesnt work for me
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:34:42 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:34:46 PM): I see that
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:35:48 PM): So I think we set up the romance for those two now
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:39:07 PM): Whatcha think?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:40:58 PM): just finished reading
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:41:06 PM): very nice well done sir
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:41:21 PM): So the real question...
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:41:28 PM): Do they have sex now or wait...rofl
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:42:04 PM): i was just thinking he could clone her and rune sex her back in his tent
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:42:16 PM): ROFL!
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:42:56 PM): nah the sex if any needs to be muted
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:43:07 PM): Of course
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:43:13 PM): "And for those whose ether transcended our plane a monument was erected, the Star of Etherial Light. Standing two stories high this
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:44:57 PM): you know if i didnt know any better i would call you a hopeless romantic
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:45:10 PM): lol hopeless maybe
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:45:17 PM): romantic...not sure
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:48:19 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:48:30 PM): so whatca wanna do tonight
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:48:36 PM): write a love scene
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:48:58 PM): wow i am unsure that i have ever written one
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:49:04 PM): this should be fun
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:49:18 PM): What do you think about Graven creating a crystal necklace resembling the star of etherial light to commemorate the night
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:49:25 PM): for each
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:50:49 PM): i like
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 7:53:07 PM): can you email me the word doc to forrestjones2010@gmail.com ? everything we have so far
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:53:25 PM): sure can
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:54:16 PM): sent
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 7:55:46 PM): crystal star possessed four prominent and 4 minor spikes,symbolizing the 4 who transcended and the 4 community leaders who brought them together.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 8:03:54 PM): brb
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 8:04:02 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 8:05:39 PM): cooking dinner
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 8:05:47 PM): ah alrighty
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 8:08:57 PM): back for a sec
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 8:09:17 PM): I have some more written
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 8:09:42 PM): cool where?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 8:09:58 PM): I changed it from a 8 sided star to a 4 sided star with a sphere at the center symbolizing the 4 who transcended and the community leader
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 8:10:12 PM): It's more appropriate imo
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 8:20:35 PM): sounds good
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 8:20:58 PM): i am going to have dinner with th fam...be back on a little later...
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 8:21:06 PM): k see ya then
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 8:33:18 PM): I wrote my first love scene! :P
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 8:37:20 PM): Steamy
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 8:37:30 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 8:37:39 PM): That's almost 3 pages sir.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 8:51:54 PM): Are you still a vegatarian?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:03:58 PM): No...rita took that away...tish is though
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:19:34 PM): You back yet? or is it gonna be a while
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:24:36 PM): sup?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:24:57 PM): I've got quite a bit more written. Want me to post it?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:25:18 PM): heck yes
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:25:34 PM): my son is listening to erasure
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:26:22 PM): Cool. Posted btw to Master Copy.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:35:38 PM): My mom is being a bitch tonight I swear. God the past few days it's always something.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:37:10 PM): that sucks
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:37:36 PM): it seems there is always one of the women in ours lives that act up though
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:37:44 PM): No joke.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:37:49 PM): Did ya read the new stuff?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:19 PM): no i have 17 million distractions in my house
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:38:27 PM): ah ok
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:29 PM): thats been my issue lately
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:44 PM): kinda glad tish is going back to work for that reason alone
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:47 PM): g
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:48 PM): g
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:49 PM): g
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:50 PM): g
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:51 PM): g
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:52 PM): g
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:52 PM): g
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:53 PM): g
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:54 PM): g
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:54 PM): g
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:54 PM): g
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:38:54 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:55 PM): g
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:55 PM): g
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:38:55 PM): g
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:39:03 PM): she's right there isn't she
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:39:03 PM): had to get that off the screen
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:39:06 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:39:10 PM): yup
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:39:14 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:39:21 PM): across the roo
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:39:23 PM): m
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:39:25 PM): rofl
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:39:35 PM): i love her but damn
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:39:53 PM): lots of time to scrutinize EVERYTHING i do
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:40:01 PM): I understand.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:40:04 PM): anywho
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:40:53 PM): The love scene is pretty subtle. I didn't get graphic
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:41:37 PM): i knew you wouldnt
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:41:37 PM): i am going to try to read it now
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:53:12 PM): i cant find it
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:53:28 PM): let me double check the master copy
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:53:57 PM): it's on there...
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:54:46 PM): hmm
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:55:13 PM): right under neath the shelter piece?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:55:20 PM): yes
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:55:33 PM): let me look again
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:55:40 PM): It's chapter 4
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:57:36 PM): reload the page maybe
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:58:25 PM): maybe so
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 9:58:32 PM): but i tried that once
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:58:46 PM): Scroll to the very bottom
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 9:59:01 PM): Then scroll up till you see 'That morning awoke to find no regrets"
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:00:28 PM): even control f wont find it
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:00:46 PM): hmm... one sec
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:01:05 PM): I am posting it to the final draft site
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:01:13 PM): ahh
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:01:30 PM): No I meant I am going to right now
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:02:49 PM): Ok posted to the final draft site
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:03:18 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:03:39 PM): Title is 'The Ind 10:01 February 5, 2010
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:05:08 PM): Find it yet?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:06:26 PM): got it
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:06:30 PM): reading
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:10:45 PM): the item then the promise.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:10:48 PM): than
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:11:58 PM): Graven taking the vow from each.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:12:05 PM): fragment
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:13:15 PM): u there?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:13:23 PM): yup
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:13:25 PM): fixed
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:13:55 PM): His hand touching hers once more as he handed her the crystal necklace, giving him chills up his spine.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:14:07 PM): touched
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:14:32 PM): done
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:16:09 PM): smile, and made preparations to return to their newly created rooms at the base of the Spherical tree.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:16:22 PM): no ,
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:16:56 PM): made preparations to return to her
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:17:18 PM): checking
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:17:27 PM): newl created room along with the rest of the others
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:17:36 PM): at the base
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:17:57 PM): ...fighting mastiff with left hand
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:18:01 PM): rofl
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:18:08 PM): .typing with right
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:18:08 PM): was wondering
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:18:10 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:18:28 PM): 155lb
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:18:34 PM): rofl
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:18:37 PM): distraction
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:18:45 PM): that i love
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:18:55 PM): ok did you get that
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:19:04 PM): Not really, it was alot of babble
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:19:07 PM): rofl
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:19:26 PM): let me start over
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:19:40 PM): They all bowed before Graven, Gaia with a sly smile, and made preparations to return to their newly created rooms at the base of the Spherical tree. Adahn watching with pride as his community
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:19:54 PM): loose the comma
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:20:08 PM): both commas? or just one?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:20:46 PM): made preparations to return to her newly created room at the base of the sphericl tree with the others.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:20:51 PM): just the one
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:22:55 PM): Adahn watching with pride as his community settled for the night before dousing the bonfire.

cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:22:57 PM): I just broke it up. Makes more sense
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:23:00 PM): watched
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:23:05 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:23:36 PM): They all bowed before Graven and made preparations to return to their newly created rooms at the base of the Spherical tree. Gaia had a sly smile
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:24:03 PM): that sounds much better
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:24:20 PM): Adahn watching with pride as his community settled for the night before dousing the bonfire.

forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:24:25 PM): watched
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:24:27 PM): I got it
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:24:34 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:26:40 PM): That morning awoke to find no regrets.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:26:43 PM): they
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:27:05 PM): I meant the morning woke. Thought it was poetic. But I can add a 'they'
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:27:19 PM): keep it
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:27:31 PM): So whatcha think?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:27:40 PM): very nice
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:27:47 PM): not over done
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:27:53 PM): to the point
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:27:59 PM): poetic
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:28:12 PM): good stuff
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:28:14 PM): no mistakn what took place
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:28:20 PM): powerful
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:28:24 PM): i loved it
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:28:27 PM): Great!
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:28:36 PM): nice work
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:28:46 PM): you really are on a roll
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:28:48 PM): So...the morning after
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:30:39 PM): I figured she would sneak off before the others found them together
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:30:45 PM): Might be a bit too awkward
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:31:13 PM): sure
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:31:36 PM): Ok day #2 is your turn. What do you want to do?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:31:47 PM): Keep in mind we need to have months passing by
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:31:51 PM): or years
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:36:43 PM): they need to be an item right
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:36:48 PM): not a fling
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:37:04 PM): but a couple until she gets whacked right?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:37:06 PM): Yeah, secretive maybe at least at first
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:38:35 PM): gotcha then out in the open later after eveyone know later anyway
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:38:44 PM): Yup
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:39:40 PM): So what does their daily life consist of
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:40:22 PM): Maybe the tree fascinates Gaia and she tries to untangle the sphere
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:47:19 PM): they all spend time with their personal traits and desires
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:47:24 PM): honing skills
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:47:30 PM): Learning to speak
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:47:45 PM): i think axis needs to knock graven out allot
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:47:50 PM): yes
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:47:57 PM): speaking is key
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:48:16 PM): visitations from the masks'
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:48:44 PM): Maybe Graven has premonitions of Forge breaking into a thousand pieces
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:48:58 PM): forge?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:49:14 PM): Yeah, Gaia is Forge. Could allude to her death
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:49:30 PM): interesting
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:49:34 PM): Random idea
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:50:31 PM): That would also help explain why that shard of forge is there early
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:50:51 PM): We need to explain how/why that happened
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:51:14 PM): Axis?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:51:39 PM): Remember how axis calls the tree a 'shard of forge' earlier in the book?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:51:45 PM): It's only one line. Let me find it
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:51:48 PM): yes
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:53:06 PM): Siren needs to show up...possibly tempt one of the group
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:53:18 PM): If she can't get to Graven, why not try the others
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:53:32 PM): yeah the one who likes shiney things
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:54:32 PM): ok so let's outline this.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:54:45 PM): 1 Gaia tries to untangle the tree.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:55:07 PM): 2 Siren shows up at some point to tempt the others. one at a time possibly and in different forms
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:55:38 PM): 3 The camp is attacked by rune bombs
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:57:00 PM): 4 Axis Plays dominant rolw
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:57:03 PM): role
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:57:08 PM): 5 They all learn to speak
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:57:40 PM): 6. The Masks make a subtle apearance
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:57:53 PM): 7. Forge is explained
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:58:11 PM): 8 Graven and Gaia evolve
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:58:30 PM): That's alot to fit into 1 chapter
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:59:07 PM): 10 Graven a Gai make monkey whopee all over th jungle and have 17 babies '
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:59:15 PM): rofl
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:59:30 PM): They could have a kid...we didn't discuss that
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 10:59:40 PM): That would add meaning to her death
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 10:59:59 PM): actually it would be caool
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:00:03 PM): cool
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:00:32 PM): Ok this is two much for one chapter. Which is not a problem. We just need to isolate what this chapter should consist of.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:00:36 PM): *too
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:00:43 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:01:13 PM): how long did chapter 4 end up being?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:01:24 PM): Chapter 3 you mean?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:01:29 PM): yeah
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:01:54 PM): 9.5 pages
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:02:04 PM): so 19 pages
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:02:25 PM): that is a solid #
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:02:27 PM): good
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:03:09 PM): Ok so we know alot of shit we are gonna add so let's consolidate what happens as vector to this chapter.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:03:46 PM): We could center it on those two falling in love and the next chapter could be about their child
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:05:48 PM): We're at 62 pages
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:05:51 PM): fyi
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:05:57 PM): wowsers
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:06:18 PM): We might need to go full out novel with this at this rate.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:06:51 PM): thats fine...we can always adapt from there
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:08:33 PM): Ok so what happens this chapter. Gaia and Graven fall in love, it ends with her being pregnant. Someone becomes a traitor possibly. Axis resurfac
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:08:34 PM): es
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:08:57 PM): thats enough
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:09:38 PM): Ok...I can't think of anything for the traitor stuff. What would siren want exactly?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:10:14 PM): gaias plant manipulation knowledge
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:10:54 PM): hmm that would involve kidnapping her
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:11:17 PM): not neccesarilly
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:12:09 PM): stealth observation
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:12:33 PM): We could leave siren out of this chapter and focus more on the masks. I do have her stealing a rune bomb at some point
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:12:48 PM): ok
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:13:25 PM): I don't know though honestly. In your opinion what should happen?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:14:01 PM): character definition
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:14:24 PM): miniture adventures and journneys
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:14:33 PM): More needs to happen with Adahn...he needs a character flaw
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:14:55 PM): Gaia doesn't need one because she is destined to be a goddess.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:15:14 PM): anything that draws out dialouge
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:16:03 PM): If we have a traitor I think it should be Adahn. Maybe she threatens to hurt the others if he doesn't give her what she wants.
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:16:18 PM): BUT!
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:16:26 PM): Don't tell the reader who the traitor is
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:16:34 PM): everything that happens over the next several years needs to deepen relationships
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:16:54 PM): especially Gaia's character
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:17:07 PM): when she dies we must feel great loss
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:17:19 PM): like the main character has died
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:17:23 PM): true
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:18:01 PM): like how could the author kill the main character?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:18:28 PM): Once she dies Graven needs to lose all hope in people...
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:18:37 PM): agreed
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:18:48 PM): maybe all hope in anything
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:19:16 PM): maybe he needs to see a phychiatryst
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:19:31 PM): If she died pregnant that would be a big blow...but I think I'd rather a kid around
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:19:54 PM): how about both a kid here
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:20:05 PM): and one she takes
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:20:11 PM): with her
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:20:18 PM): that could work
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:20:43 PM): I don't want it like back to back 9 months though. I don't want readers to think they are crazy hump bunnies
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:20:57 PM): right
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:21:05 PM): but we know they is
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:21:09 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:21:44 PM): like come hur shay...likes roll that stuff ova
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:22:03 PM): rump shaka
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:22:06 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:22:36 PM): you know writing alone would never be this much fun
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:22:42 PM): No dobut
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:22:44 PM): doubt*
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:24:25 PM): so...does he teach them to use their chaos-sight?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:25:28 PM): yes
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:26:05 PM): They could be Captain Planet's squad. Earth, Wind, Fire, Water, Heart! GO PLANET!
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:27:34 PM): go planet indeed
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:27:37 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:27:56 PM): whore bots
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:28:26 PM): They need to make a terrarium
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:28:37 PM): and what is this
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:28:55 PM): Use crystal as the glass and gather animals. It's like an aquarium with land instead of water.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:29:32 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:29:42 PM): Random thought. I had it in my old version
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:30:00 PM): what is the need of one?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:30:11 PM): To study the runes in different animals
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:30:20 PM): Without killing them
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:30:27 PM): ah
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:30:40 PM): because graven is not a killer
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:30:48 PM): righto
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:31:14 PM): why on earth
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:31:24 PM): and he doesnt eat
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:31:38 PM): of all the difficult traits
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:31:44 PM): ROFL
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:31:54 PM): He's a complex character!
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:32:12 PM): yeah well so id jason
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:32:16 PM): is
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:32:20 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:32:37 PM): id my have been the appropriate word
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:32:51 PM): :P
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:33:01 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:33:48 PM): i just think back to lotr and how much to;lien had those damn hobits eating all the time
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:34:00 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:34:14 PM): if he was ever blocked all he had to do was throw a freakin pary
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:34:18 PM): party
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:34:28 PM): and desribe a food spread
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:34:35 PM): Yeah and we took up the hard task of writing without food or drink as mediums
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:35:07 PM): take food and drink out of his work and you no longer have a trilogy
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:35:14 PM): rofl
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:35:47 PM): take weapons and names out and whats left
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:35:52 PM): a short story
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:36:06 PM): lol yeah we have no weapons either...
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:36:16 PM): WAIT! He did make a spear once...
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:37:07 PM): now you are getting a little bit of insight...in the future we need being that need things to exist
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:37:18 PM): it is easier to write them
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:37:28 PM): for me anyway
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:37:38 PM): When we publish we can say...'well honestly the whole book was a bet to write a fantasy book with no food, drinks or weapons...
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:37:46 PM): we win
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:37:47 PM): rofl
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:37:49 PM): graven doesnt even shit
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:38:02 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:38:08 PM): true
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:38:48 PM): I really feel for once that we're gonna finish this eventually
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:38:57 PM): we will
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:38:58 PM): We're averaging at least 2 pages a day
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:39:06 PM): it seems sooner rather than laer
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:39:18 PM): later
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:39:43 PM): if you think about it we have had several years to process it
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:39:55 PM): You realize we have only been writing on this version of the story what...like almost 3 weeks? if that
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:40:30 PM): I had my doubts when we were starting over for like the 4th time
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:40:30 PM): i lost track
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:41:02 PM): we have started over 4 times?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:41:08 PM): I believe so
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:41:30 PM): Twice this year
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:41:37 PM): I think at least twice years ago
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:41:59 PM): what are you talking about twice this year?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:42:33 PM): Well when we first started this we redid the beginning, or I did rather, then we started over again with what we have now
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:42:56 PM): ah
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:43:13 PM): i didnt relize you were counting that as twice
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:43:20 PM): its all good
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:43:27 PM): It's no big deal. It's all been fun.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:43:32 PM): creation is what i am in it for
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:44:10 PM): believe it or not i finish almost everything i start these days...
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:44:18 PM): That's a good habit
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:44:23 PM): i am mostly referring to art
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:44:35 PM): but it goes for other things to
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:44:56 PM): Well with all due respect those things aren't 300 page novels
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:44:58 PM): :P
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:45:11 PM): or are they
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:45:12 PM): true
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:45:30 PM): and yes some are
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:45:40 PM): cool beans
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:46:01 PM): How goes your comic stuff?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:46:13 PM): Is that making any progress toward being finished?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:46:44 PM): its rocking right on course...say 3/4 or so done
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:46:55 PM): Nice
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:47:09 PM): So...we need a reader
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:47:13 PM): desperately
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:47:50 PM): I feel like camping in a book store and asking anyone who even looks at the fantasy books section to read this and give me an opinion.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:48:22 PM): i talked to jimmy again tonight he will read this week
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:48:55 PM): and i got another friend a copy just today
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:49:17 PM): I realize 60 pages isn't like a 5 minute read but yeah readers will be nice.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:49:21 PM): we need a query letter done
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:49:33 PM): Yeah that's a good idea...
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:49:39 PM): it is a pretty big time commitment
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:50:18 PM): Do you have a list of companies somewhere you would send it to? I can help you write a sum-up of the story.
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:52:06 PM): what genre is it?
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:52:18 PM): pure fantasy?
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:52:21 PM): sci fi/fantasy
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:52:25 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:52:32 PM): We're headed to the future
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:52:37 PM): eventually
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:53:21 PM): bring it on alex p keaton
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:53:49 PM): i will look into places to send it
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:56:29 PM): So at some point Graven will realize that Gaia is still alive in the tree. Her spirit is anyway. Which will be interesting
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:56:51 PM): She will have alot of vines...
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:56:55 PM): Sweet vine luvin
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:57:46 PM): he could take a bottle of night train up into tha tree and get trashed
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:57:52 PM): and sing country music
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:57:57 PM): all night long
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:58:06 PM): and siren could come kick his ass
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:58:12 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:58:17 PM): and steall his wine
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:58:33 PM): and steal his baby
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:59:01 PM): sounds promising
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:59:01 PM): and guns and roses song could be playing
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:59:07 PM): im on tha night train
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:59:25 PM): dude too bad you can't tell the reader to play certain music while they read for certain chapters
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:59:34 PM): rofl
cagedmind0531 (2/5/2010 11:59:47 PM): we could have had 'Let's get it on' for this last chapter
forrestjones2010 (2/5/2010 11:59:58 PM): that would be cool...why cant we copyright?
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:00:11 AM): rotflol
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:00:27 AM): =))
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:00:30 AM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:01:32 AM): Hey Gaia come on ova hu and let me rub that assa(spoken in perfect Barry White voice over)
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:01:45 AM): ova hur
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:02:23 AM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:02:29 AM): brb
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:02:31 AM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:06:11 AM): back
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:06:16 AM): alrighty
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:07:07 AM): So...what if Taeran escapes Iboga somehow
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:07:35 AM): I don't want him dead but then again if he gets released alot of what I wrote will be negated
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:08:36 AM): we dont want negations
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:08:40 AM): yah
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:08:49 AM): if possible
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:09:50 AM): Should probably just kill him off I guess.
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:10:04 AM): We can't have alot of Etherians around when gaia comes to power
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:10:07 AM): Most of them die
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:10:33 AM): kill your darlings
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:10:47 AM): we need more women btw
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:10:57 AM): Yeah it's a sausage-fest
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:11:09 AM): no joke you fag
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:11:13 AM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:11:20 AM): jj
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:12:23 AM): i had the idea that all the masks were female
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:12:32 AM): right hilly?
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:12:47 AM): You told me you pictured them as unisex
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:13:09 AM): But yeah they are all Hillary :P
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:13:47 AM): lets say leaning feminine
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:14:01 AM): but yes androgynous
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:14:12 AM): I think all the creative forces should be men and the destructive ones women
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:14:15 AM): its never stated right?
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:14:19 AM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:14:23 AM): Never stated
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:14:34 AM): thats bitter
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:14:38 AM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:14:44 AM): but true
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:14:51 AM): saw that coming
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:15:19 AM): right
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:15:52 AM): What if, as like a project Graven recreates the masks, then they all say how they have had the same dreams
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:15:56 AM): Seen the same masks
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:18:37 AM): i like this idea allot
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:19:04 AM): Maybe Axis can warn him about looking too closely at the creators
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:20:33 AM): the masks?
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:20:39 AM): yeah
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:20:46 AM): why?
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:21:10 AM): Maybe they don't want to be scrutinized so closely. Maybe it's dangerous
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:22:58 AM): have you ever read dorian gray?
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:23:14 AM): No I haven't
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:23:17 AM): Why?
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:24:02 AM): graven does not age right
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:24:13 AM): What do you mean?
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:24:57 AM): unless he looses purpose he dosnt age
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:25:10 AM): right
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:25:14 AM): Right
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:26:16 AM): Have we aged him before or something?
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:26:18 AM): what if th masks have started to age as he goes back to see them
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:26:39 AM): no
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:26:54 AM): Kinda lost, elaborate. What would that mean?
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:27:19 AM): random thought
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:28:09 AM): hmmm
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:31:49 AM): thinking
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:31:55 AM): aging might be a good idea
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:31:56 AM): the premise in dorian gray is that dorian will not age if he keep his portrait in the attic and transfrerrs all his sins to it...in this cas Graven keeps his full purpose and transfrers his death onto the masks and they age and die..in the end
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:32:22 AM): OH! Yeah I remember that
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:33:04 AM): dorian hates what he has become and ends up hating himself and stabs the painting in the attic....graven stabs or destroys the masks.....killing himself....stabbing his painting kills himself...
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:33:31 AM): interesting
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:33:56 AM): What if siren is sent back to get the 4 masks from Graven
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:34:24 AM): that would be the ultimate
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:34:36 AM): in badassessness
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:35:36 AM): she is under their power though
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:36:00 AM): it is doubtful she could even touch them and live
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:36:11 AM): hmm
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:36:50 AM): brb one minute
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:37:07 AM): but who knows perhaps her intentions are purer than we now suppose them to be
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:37:10 AM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:37:58 AM): back
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:38:43 AM): So let's see
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:39:09 AM): He creates the 4 masks and these become powerful weapons in the future
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:40:56 AM): She only wants 1 mask though specifically
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:41:00 AM): For some reason
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:43:20 AM): Tired?
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:44:13 AM): little bit
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:44:20 AM): u?
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:44:35 AM): Nah I'll be up for a while yet. If you want to call it a night though it's cool.
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:45:33 AM): i'll be here but i may respond a little slower
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:45:49 AM): Go ahead and get some rest man.
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:46:12 AM): really i am still up for a bit
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 12:46:17 AM): alrighty
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 12:46:22 AM): in and out
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 1:00:22 AM): So anyway
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 1:01:45 AM): What if their baby's fate is tied to one mask, whichever mask is left of the four by the time the baby is born
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 1:17:01 AM): the soliton
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 1:17:45 AM): Maybe she steals one of the masks because it is believed that mask is responsible for the scalping
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 2:42:26 AM): ah
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 2:58:01 AM): flip
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 1:09:37 PM): Afternoon good sir
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 1:20:03 PM): Afternoon ...
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 1:20:38 PM): How are you today?
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 1:21:38 PM): I had this dream about gaia & graven standing on this stone tower it was so vivid...night...moon...embrace...i will drw this
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 1:22:00 PM): Having a good day you?
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 1:22:23 PM): Beth is coming over the next couple days so I won't be on alot. I'm doing well though, I miss her.
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 1:23:11 PM): Good...dont work...i will I will have more time...to
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 1:23:53 PM): I wrote some last night but I may scrap it. Not sure. About Adahn having an idea to build a school inside the sphere.
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 1:33:06 PM): The whole idea of the sphere opening I am second guessing
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 1:39:01 PM): What do you think?
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 1:42:35 PM): Driving
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 2:31:13 PM): word up home skillet
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 2:32:26 PM): Thinking about the sphere opening while on the throne
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 2:32:38 PM): ROFL throne huh?
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 2:33:02 PM): Seemingly one of the few places I can call my own these days
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 2:33:29 PM): The wife wants me to go walk the children
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 2:33:52 PM): How big is the sphere
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 2:34:10 PM): Really big. Like many stories tall
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 2:34:52 PM): Ah...bigger than I had imagined...sweet
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 2:35:17 PM): Don't scrap the school yet...play with it a bit it could work
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 2:36:02 PM): What if the sphere itself could communicate with them somehow
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 2:36:28 PM): hmm possibly
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 2:36:41 PM): Like these crystals that carry energy for some of the indian tribes
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 2:36:56 PM): Random thought
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 2:38:39 PM): I have to go walk the children now...be back online later today...live long & prosper
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 2:41:01 PM): later dude
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 5:00:41 PM): what's kickin
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 5:07:00 PM): Solo & enseble canan got an A1 tthe highest possible!
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 5:07:22 PM): Whoot that's awesome sir! Jason sends his grats!
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 5:09:27 PM): He's a good kid & a great mucician
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 5:09:52 PM): If only his father could spell musician!
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 5:10:42 PM): We perform together tomorow I portt artthur
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 5:10:54 PM): That's groovy
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 5:57:47 PM): God this sucks. She is late AGAIN.
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 5:58:27 PM): Why do people say they are going to be somewhere when they can't hold to it.
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:00:49 PM): Tish is that way...all the time
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:01:06 PM): Boundary issues
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:01:13 PM): It's my number 1 pet peeve. I can't take it. It honestly makes me want to scream.
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:03:25 PM): Its up there on my list to buddy
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:25:06 PM): She said she'd be here at 5 and it's almost 6:30 and she hasn't even left and it's almost an hour drive.
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:32:32 PM): Wow
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:33:04 PM): Women have no respect for other people's time.
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:36:42 PM): Some do...i just haven't met many
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:36:53 PM): Or married any
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:39:11 PM): You getting on your computer at all tonight?
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:42:22 PM): Yeah
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:42:37 PM): Thought you were with beth
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:43:07 PM): Well she still isn't here so I'm bored. She won't be here for at least another hour or two
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:43:52 PM): Yeah ill jump on now for a while...see if I catch any hell for it
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:44:02 PM): ROFL
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:44:21 PM): Well for the next few days I'll be busy so you'll have all that time with her :P
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:51:00 PM): here
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:51:07 PM): coolio
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:51:16 PM): slide dlide
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:51:19 PM): slide
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:51:35 PM): So let me post what I wrote to the Master
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:52:54 PM): My parents just got a 46 inch tv we can't afford...yay...
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:53:30 PM): nice just in time for that game people like to watch every year
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:54:38 PM): posted to master
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:54:48 PM): It's just a paragraph and a few dialogue lines
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:54:56 PM): Not sure I like the direction
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:55:17 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:55:31 PM): I thought about them keeping the affair a secret but honestly how can 2 people keep a secret when there are only 5 total
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:55:52 PM): I mean this isn't a sitcom
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:56:22 PM): good point
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:56:42 PM): graven seems pretty direct anyway
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 6:59:04 PM): he does
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 6:59:41 PM): so why hide it just write in an immediate shack up
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 7:00:02 PM): Well as far as them sharing a bed every night right off the bat, that may be pushing it
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 7:01:22 PM): I mean typically people sleep together long before they live together
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 7:01:26 PM): Usually...
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 7:03:36 PM): right
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 7:03:56 PM): So we have to ask ourselves...exactly how much sexual tension is there.
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 7:04:24 PM): I think we should have some casual checking out etc :P
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 7:06:21 PM): shit beth is here! finally.
cagedmind0531 (2/6/2010 7:06:26 PM): Have a good night man.
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 7:07:11 PM): you too
forrestjones2010 (2/6/2010 7:07:17 PM): be nice
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 12:56:01 PM): Morning dude
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 2:06:58 PM): Sweet
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 2:22:10 PM): thought you were away for a few days
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 2:22:16 PM): how are you and beth
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 2:47:55 PM): We're good. I'm pretty occupied but I get a moment here and there
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 2:52:07 PM): ah i see go have fun
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 2:52:23 PM): i am pretty tied up with canan too
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 6:40:21 PM): i drew a scene with Graven and Gaia
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 6:40:39 PM): staring at the Gaiasphere
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 6:40:56 PM): post it
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 6:41:10 PM): not finished just yet
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 7:38:47 PM): published but incomplete
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 8:38:51 PM): Its unfinished...
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 8:39:29 PM): & there are a few more other things I want to do with this idead...
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 8:39:36 PM): Idea
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:18:42 PM): What's kickin dude
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:24:29 PM): Just got home
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:24:42 PM): U?
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:28:27 PM): What's up?
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:35:21 PM): Not much. Beth is watching some show I have no interest in. You plan on doing any writing or just wanna wait till we can work again?
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:37:46 PM): I have written some love works long walks on the beach and the like
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:38:10 PM): Seriously or you being smart ass? :P
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:38:38 PM): No seriously
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:38:51 PM): But not the beach
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:39:09 PM): Sounds intriguing
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:43:16 PM): Will post later gotta fix it
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:43:27 PM): alrighty
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:43:52 PM): Jumping on line now
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:44:02 PM): cool
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:45:11 PM): here
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:45:38 PM): I can't stop thinking about the book, dreamed about it last night. lol
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:45:54 PM): Trying to work out what happens with the tree and Gaia etc
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:46:23 PM): sweet
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:46:27 PM): did you see the pi
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:46:31 PM): pic
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:46:33 PM): Yeah, interesting
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:46:47 PM): its not finished at all
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:46:50 PM): but getting there
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:48:03 PM): I want graven to live for quite a while, well into the next age and possibly he watches the Gaia tree die and it's like he is losing her all
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:48:05 PM): over again
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:48:18 PM): nice thought
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:49:02 PM): i told tish i was writing o love sce and she said are you ok?
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:49:10 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:49:16 PM): you dont write love scenes
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:49:36 PM): i know this is my second...you were my first
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:49:51 PM): rofl! smooth
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:50:02 PM): i know right...save
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:50:06 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:51:24 PM): So we need Gaia's death to be at the end of an intense scene. Saving him from a rune bomb seems kind of shallow now
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:51:40 PM): ok
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:52:29 PM): We might need to wait another chapter or two to kill her...we need a mystery or something to occupy that time. I just feel like we need more time
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:52:33 PM): to make readers care about her
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:53:18 PM): thats fine
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:53:24 PM): evolve speech
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:53:30 PM): that needs time
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:53:36 PM): develope the school
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:53:47 PM): what color is the gaisphere
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:53:52 PM): He needs to love her after she speaks too. It's easy to love a woman who can't talk :P
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:53:54 PM): ROFL!
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:54:08 PM): amen brother man
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:54:27 PM): hot and cant talk rocks and makes the first move naked
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:54:35 PM): thats fantasy right
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:54:38 PM): Right now it's black with red vines and blue leaves
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:55:10 PM): yeah well black doesnt translate in photoshop so pick a color
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:55:28 PM): Dark blue maybe
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:55:33 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:55:47 PM): Basically the entire forest is dark blue and blood red
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:56:05 PM): We need more visuals of the forest inserted
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:56:09 PM): Back in the story
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:56:43 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:56:52 PM): Or maybe we can start incorporating that now without the reader noticing we didn't do it already
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:58:01 PM): What might be cool is to have a love scene on top of the Gaia tree...like they climb up there
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:58:11 PM): It is the tallest tree in the forest
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 10:59:09 PM): sweet cuz i gots them monkey up thur right now
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 10:59:21 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:00:00 PM): We need to make their love believable without this turning into a chick flick
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:00:13 PM): tell me what you think of this
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:02:47 PM): uploading image to blog
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:02:50 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:03:18 PM): done
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:03:39 PM): it feels to simplistic
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:04:28 PM): Well there is alot that could be added if you wanted to but it's pretty interesting
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:05:41 PM): ok...i like it for what it is i just did want to go to bare bones
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:06:13 PM): Not sure what you would want to add to it, if anything
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:06:21 PM): there are other variations of this i want to play with
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:06:37 PM): the scenes you wrote are rich with visuals
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:06:50 PM): I have an idea
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:06:55 PM): i thought about a moon
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:07:01 PM): What if one of the characters gets injured
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:07:01 PM): but another sphere
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:07:08 PM): might be to much
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:07:12 PM): or a flare
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:07:12 PM): yeah I agree
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:07:47 PM): What do you think about Syrka getting seriously hurt and dying. Gaia knowing about a plant that might help him or something
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:08:02 PM): random thought
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:08:06 PM): i like that
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:08:28 PM): healing plants are right up her alley
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:09:25 PM): I need to read the book through again.
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:09:37 PM): me too
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:10:08 PM): We need to remember that for us chapter 2 was like weeks ago but for the reader it may be 5 minutes ago
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:10:28 PM): very true
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:11:36 PM): I've gotta go. I'll be thinking of ideas. Your drawing looks good but it does need something
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:11:42 PM): Not sure what
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:12:25 PM): i found what it needs peak at it later i will post
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:12:27 PM): night man
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:12:37 PM): Wait nvm she wants to shower so Ic an stick around a few more
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:12:46 PM): alone :(
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:12:51 PM): rofl she wrote that
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:13:01 PM): :)
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:13:28 PM): namaste
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:13:56 PM): so anyway
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:14:58 PM): You given this chapter any thought as to things that can happen? Other then the love scene?
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:15:52 PM): yes
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:16:06 PM): cant stop thinking about the book in general
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:16:19 PM): Yeah it's kind of overwhelming
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:17:12 PM): i am completely fascinated by it
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:17:48 PM): i have been into the visual more lately because do to the family thing i have not had time to myself to write
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:18:01 PM): it's cool
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:18:20 PM): I think maybe one of the other characters needs to sculpt the 4 masks, maybe Syrka
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:18:41 PM): The reader needs to know these are not just things in his head. These are real powers at work
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:20:10 PM): to clarify
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:20:19 PM): THE masks
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:20:26 PM): will be made by them
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:20:40 PM): and be set in motion and become legend
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:20:45 PM): history
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:20:50 PM): ?
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:21:27 PM): I didn't think about that but I was thinking maybe in the future they think the masks are myths but one scientist tries to speak out
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:21:52 PM): The 4 they sculpt could be like artifacts
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:22:06 PM): I mean relics, not like the artifact
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:25:22 PM): lost me
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:25:43 PM): I was just thinking they might be items of power
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:26:06 PM): but the ones graven sees he alone sees them
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:26:20 PM): and these are the true masks
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:26:31 PM): in there prime form correct
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:26:37 PM): Yes
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:26:56 PM): We'll sort it all out. I gotta go for tonight.
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:27:07 PM): See ya soon brother!
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:27:21 PM): night man check out the pic
forrestjones2010 (2/7/2010 11:27:28 PM): its about to be posted
cagedmind0531 (2/7/2010 11:27:35 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 8:53:19 AM): Note to include anthiogenes in graven gaia relationship
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 12:53:29 PM): Many ideas today
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 1:21:25 PM): u there?
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 3:44:44 PM): What's up?
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 4:52:24 PM): Hey
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 4:53:30 PM): Will check in a momen...i want her charged late payments especially with all the work that was done
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 4:56:22 PM): here
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 4:57:50 PM): Oops wrong person...just woke up
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 4:58:18 PM): u there/
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 4:58:21 PM): ?
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 6:21:33 PM): I drew you some pictures today...
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 6:29:51 PM): Cool. Post them
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 6:30:08 PM): all posted sir
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 6:30:18 PM): Yeah I see them. Cool stuff
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 6:30:50 PM): Beth leaves tomorrow so be ready to work!
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 6:31:56 PM): ok
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 6:32:16 PM): i have made an outline of what i will be working on
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 6:32:48 PM): Cool. I'd like to go over that with you. I can't right now though, gotta help my brother with his math homework.
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 6:32:59 PM): sure
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 6:33:05 PM): np
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 6:33:27 PM): Feel free to message me with ideas though cause I check back to my computer all the time
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 6:33:35 PM): i need to learn how to merge images
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 6:33:43 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 6:35:04 PM): did you see what i added to the graven gaia piece?
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:28:19 PM): Busy?
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:30:34 PM): poke
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:40:05 PM): i have a surprise for you
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:40:19 PM): I'm on the computer for a bit if you have the time
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:40:29 PM): im here
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:40:32 PM): What's up
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:40:45 PM): i have the rune bomb
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:40:56 PM): I have one drawn too :P
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:41:16 PM): its gonna be bad assa
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:41:41 PM): its not ready to post
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:41:49 PM): sti workin on it
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:42:02 PM): This is my rune bomb http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/photo.php?pid=608181&id=1151925495
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:42:32 PM): nice work
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:42:46 PM): I still wanna see your idea though for sure.
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:43:02 PM): when did you do dis?
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:43:09 PM): A long long long time ago
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:43:25 PM): in a lnd far far away?
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:43:34 PM): lol yeah
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:44:14 PM): how old is your brother now?
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:44:20 PM): Which one?
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:44:26 PM): younger
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:44:31 PM): Almost 14
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:44:34 PM): I think
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:44:51 PM): so he is canans age
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:44:51 PM): He's obsessed with guns and call of duty
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:45:07 PM): thats strange
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:45:20 PM): It's a big thing now apparently.
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:45:33 PM): Airsoft guns and what not
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:45:38 PM): yeah i see it everywhere
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:45:59 PM): proaganda f
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:46:15 PM): No doubt
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:46:34 PM): Those runes are a real alphabet I made up btw
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:46:43 PM): I didn't just scribble those
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:46:55 PM): i do
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:47:28 PM): flipping weirdo...gosh
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:47:34 PM): :P
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:47:44 PM): I wonder if Canan and Taylor would get along
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:47:56 PM): dunno
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:48:13 PM): canan is into anything music
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:48:24 PM): guitars and drums
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:48:25 PM): Taylor is good at Guitar Hero
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:48:35 PM): canantoo
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:50:00 PM): Some interesting work with the tree btw
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:51:01 PM): how can we get them to speak
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:51:01 PM): the book
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:51:09 PM): Who to speak?
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:51:49 PM): ty
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:52:28 PM): Veyn and Syrka and Gaia?
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:53:18 PM): yes
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:53:54 PM): Not sure.
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:53:57 PM): School?
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:54:01 PM): I don't know
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:55:08 PM): What if the Gaia tree can transfer knowledge some how.
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:55:39 PM): that would be quicker
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:55:54 PM): How to approach it though is the question.
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:57:24 PM): It might be too convenient seeming
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:58:54 PM): What if that is the power of one of the masks they make.
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 7:58:57 PM): right
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 7:59:14 PM): Like Order transfers knowledge, the others have other powers
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 8:01:56 PM): we'll figure it out
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 8:02:31 PM): untill then i dont think we have to write linear
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 8:03:17 PM): draw pain write and string it together later
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 8:03:48 PM): One thing I want more of in the book are more detailed environments. It's one thing we're missing.
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 8:04:00 PM): More colors, shapes, critters
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 8:04:07 PM): agreed
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 8:04:59 PM): that is also the esiest part and can come toward the end
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 8:06:20 PM): put notes in parenthesis foe this as we go along
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 8:09:49 PM): We should make Iboga female maybe
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 8:10:58 PM): there?
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 8:11:08 PM): yes
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 8:11:33 PM): I'm here
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 8:12:35 PM): 'sup?
cagedmind0531 (2/8/2010 8:18:05 PM): I'm gonna get off for now. I'll talk to ya later bud.
forrestjones2010 (2/8/2010 8:28:56 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 3:39:35 PM): What's kickin homie.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 3:41:39 PM): My nigga...
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 3:41:54 PM): Beth left today so it's work time.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 3:42:19 PM): Swing ou susta...
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 3:42:28 PM): Out
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 3:43:21 PM): What time ya gonna be on tonight good sir?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 3:44:33 PM): 430ish
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 3:44:39 PM): Groovy
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 3:44:43 PM): I was thinking 430ish
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 3:46:05 PM): Gravy Blimp
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 3:46:39 PM): I wanna learn how to merge images tonight
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 3:47:28 PM): I have lots of ideas of g & g holding hands & looking at the blue tree together
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 3:47:40 PM): Sounds good. Gotta help my brother with a little math. brb
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 3:48:08 PM): & ofcourse poning underneath it like rabbit monkeys
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 3:49:47 PM): Word up gyrascope!
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:19:28 PM): I'm back
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:23:44 PM): How's work been?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:33:56 PM): Good actually...thinking about a new company
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:34:06 PM): new company?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:37:07 PM): Chase bank...
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:37:29 PM): Edj has become a drag in allot of ways
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:37:51 PM): Well whatever you can do to be happy man
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:37:56 PM): But f talking about work stuff....book stuff is were its at...
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:38:52 PM): Turns out canan will be with me tonight but I am working on the book from 430 to 730
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:39:03 PM): here at the office
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:39:28 PM): Brought computer up here to work...
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:39:36 PM): ;-)
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:40:15 PM): haha, clever
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:48:11 PM): I thought about there being a giant flower when the gaia tree opens and the school being built around it.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:48:58 PM): That sounds mor plausible
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:49:48 PM): I am going to jump on line
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:49:59 PM): alrighty
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:53:47 PM): here
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:54:29 PM): What about making the tree the end of an era like it's supposed to be instead of making it a shard of forge that is out of place
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:54:40 PM): What if it's the spirit of forge waiting for it's turn to rule
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:55:03 PM): that could work
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:55:24 PM): It seems more flowing then making it be there when it's not supposed to be
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:56:28 PM): go with it
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:56:35 PM): The problem with doing it that way is it will make it impossible for a school to be there. Which is no big deal. Just a small rewrite of what I
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:56:37 PM): put down
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:57:37 PM): why would it effect the school?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:58:04 PM): Because if it's not supposed to open till the signal of the new era that means it doesn't open till Gaia's death
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:59:05 PM): ah i see...the it remains cosed
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 4:59:08 PM): closed
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 4:59:10 PM): We also need to discuss how humans come about...I mean do they spawn from the tree or...
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:00:28 PM): no tree spawn
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:00:37 PM): lol yeah I realize that's weird
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:01:11 PM): i think they need to be created by someone or something
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:01:53 PM): This chapter is proving very difficult to flesh out. I'm having problems
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:02:48 PM): yes love tends to complicate everything
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:03:01 PM): i think we need to focus on one thing
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:03:13 PM): how do we get them all speaking first
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:03:29 PM): then with everyone speaking everything else falls into place
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:03:45 PM): hmmm
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:05:26 PM): So...we need a big event for this chapter to focus on
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:05:42 PM): we have discussed some possible ways speech comes about
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:06:01 PM): spontaneous versus slow learning
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:06:06 PM): What if Axis has some idea
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:06:13 PM): thats fine
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:06:41 PM): the vector is of no import as long as it arrives and is viable
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:07:00 PM): idea:
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:07:03 PM): We could just as easily and quickly have them learning. Just say a month or three passes etc
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:07:05 PM): go ahead
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:07:41 PM): Graven in a somber display says something like...i believe you are all ready
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:07:45 PM): follow me
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:07:52 PM): leads them to the tree
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:08:09 PM): draws a circle around the tree in the dirt
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:08:49 PM): takes Axis out of his head(very painfully because he got instructions from Axis on how todo so)
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:09:01 PM): Axis goes into a monolouge
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:09:06 PM): I like this idea alot
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:09:11 PM): projects a hologram
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:09:17 PM): of the 4 masks
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:09:26 PM): explains the mission
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:09:33 PM): and run with it
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:09:46 PM): you like?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:10:21 PM): Yes. Siren would know of this event and would try to take the eye, and Axis will have felt her coming and prepared for it
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:10:39 PM): at the end Axis instructs Graven to put him back into his head old buddy or something halfway comical
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:10:48 PM): yes
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:11:15 PM): good i have made jason happy today :)
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:11:23 PM): lol seriously good idea
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:11:47 PM): thanks
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:12:06 PM): so axis can loose their tounges to speak
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:12:13 PM): they have so many questions
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:12:31 PM): that will carry the chapter where ever you want it to go
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:12:40 PM): Yeah it's a good idea
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:12:58 PM): Gaia could refuse to be a part of the ritual
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:13:13 PM): because she doesnt like metal
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:13:36 PM): I was going to say anything artificial, metal is kind of broad
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:15:04 PM): it is specifically stated earlier that she doesnt like anything metal as well as things contructed
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:15:21 PM): but anywho artificial is a better way to state it
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:15:42 PM): Ah that's right
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:18:31 PM): I have to run for a bit I had a pop in...
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:18:52 PM): ok man
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:34:38 PM): What if she refuses but Axis hits her with the beam of knowledge anyway. That could be a source of conflict between the two.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:37:57 PM): back
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:38:05 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:39:08 PM): yeah hit her with a beam of some knowledge...
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:39:31 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:41:24 PM): so do we want to proceed in this dierection
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:42:14 PM): I think so. It's a good idea. I'm not sure how to get siren into the scene.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:43:15 PM): i can squeeze her tricky ass in any where leave her up to me
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:43:29 PM): squirrely vixeness
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:44:03 PM): she wurs dental floss fur a g strang
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:44:17 PM): ha. almost done writing the scene up to the ritual. One sec
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:44:18 PM): rofl
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:44:19 PM): cuz she a ha
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:44:26 PM): oops ho
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:44:40 PM): ok on task
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:46:03 PM): a censor snapped on overload as Siren was lounging at the bar on oredale and 9th avenue her shift had been over for 2 hours and she was bored stiff
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:46:26 PM): the censor throbbed
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:46:39 PM): this was no orndinary alert
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:46:59 PM): this was off the scale
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:47:19 PM): she reached for a button that said immediate sobriety
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:47:35 PM): haha
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:47:39 PM): flicked it rose from her chair and dissapeared
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:47:49 PM): so yeah i got Siren
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:51:24 PM): bout done
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:51:34 PM): with what?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:52:47 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:54:33 PM): ok let me post it
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:55:04 PM): swing
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:55:45 PM): Posted
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 5:55:49 PM): It's under Master Copy February 9, 2010
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:59:29 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 5:59:34 PM): reading now
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:01:46 PM): I figure at this point they can go to an astral plane where Graven has to lead them to something. Gaia is there as well and she is petrified.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:02:56 PM): ok that search did not get me there
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:03:23 PM): um the first line of the new stuff I wrote is...
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:03:40 PM): With more then a casual glance at Gaia
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:03:50 PM): would it just be easier to repost the whole thing everytime to the top?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:04:14 PM): I did repost everything...
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:04:40 PM): that search still took me to the top
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:04:44 PM): wtf
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:05:06 PM): let me just copy what I wrote that was new to a new post
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:05:17 PM): no
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:05:18 PM): wait
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:06:41 PM): ok got it
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:06:55 PM): sear at top of blog gets it...then control f
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:07:00 PM): brain fart
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:07:11 PM): these meds do that to me sometimes
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:07:17 PM): moving forward
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:07:19 PM): it's cool
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:08:42 PM): I think it's time we educated the heathens
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:08:51 PM): take out think
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:08:55 PM): its time
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:09:10 PM): he is to always be an absolutist
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:09:33 PM): did you ever read strunk and whites elements of style?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:10:12 PM): no I didn't
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:10:24 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:10:51 PM): grab a copy if you ever see it on the cheap
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:11:01 PM): best english book of all time
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:11:08 PM): and only like 100 pages
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:11:25 PM): Is that the one you told me about a long time ago that talks about phrases we use all the time that are unneccesary?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:11:41 PM): maybe...i think so
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:11:54 PM): but i have changed my mind on adverbs
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:12:53 PM): al but it will cost you a level of pain,
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:12:59 PM): tremendous level
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:13:20 PM): I figured Axis was trying to downplay it so Graven didn't freak out
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:13:50 PM): he needs to be fully disclosed
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:14:03 PM): :)
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:16:06 PM): Though confused, Adahn conveyed what he could in order to comfort the group.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:16:19 PM): not sure what this is missing
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:16:45 PM): hmmm
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:18:05 PM): Though confused, Adahn comforted the group with his basic understanding of the ritual.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:18:19 PM): yes
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:18:47 PM): "She simply cannot afford to forgoe this ritual Graven. I feel and fear the consequences now more then ever."
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:18:58 PM): this is good just put who says what
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:19:06 PM): replied axis or whom ever
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:19:31 PM): got it
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:24:57 PM): How is it? Does it feel forced?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:26:37 PM): sorry
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:27:52 PM): computer problem
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:27:57 PM): np
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:28:55 PM): ok i am reading again
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:29:06 PM): alrighty
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:30:58 PM): Rather then sitting upon the dirt though the eye floats center to the
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:31:01 PM): than
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:31:20 PM): always get that wrong...
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:31:55 PM): Rather then sitting upon the dirt though the eye floats center to the circle, a light wind spinning forth from it's presence.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:32:06 PM): loose "though"
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:33:07 PM): Slowly at first the eye begins to spin before ultimately speed takes hold and the eye is simply a blur before all present. A beam of light strikes the eyes of all present, even Gaia who at this point was several feet back, just watching to ensure Graven's safety.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:33:49 PM): change "all present"
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:33:57 PM): it occurs twice
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:34:30 PM): done
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:36:50 PM): yes
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:37:00 PM): yes?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:40:03 PM): yes i am done
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:40:28 PM): its f ing awesome cat daddy
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:40:37 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:40:37 PM): dang martin
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:40:42 PM): please slap gina
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:41:13 PM): So I figure they are on some other plane now
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:41:26 PM): And they have to find something in it
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:41:45 PM): I was thinking about them going into graven's past and revisiting past moments
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:47:00 PM): hmmm
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:47:39 PM): whatever you fear will come to you
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:48:08 PM): That's not bad. Actually Gaia's could be a vision of the actual future.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:49:02 PM): what if she sees Graven's death
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:49:55 PM): but in the scope of things she actually is viewing her death
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:50:03 PM): hmm
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:51:14 PM): Wondering if them seeing their own fears may be difficult considering how abstract they all are
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:52:00 PM): i am thinking that what they see and hear is unique to the individual
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:52:34 PM): Gaia what you fear will come to you is for her
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:52:52 PM): i view the others as more positve
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:53:05 PM): not happy sunshine but not as dark
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:53:40 PM): thinking
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:55:35 PM): and their caged minds became free. for at last they did not ponder the finite space in their immediate surroundings
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:56:15 PM): What stops Siren from getting the eye? Because if I were her I would grab it and immediately teleport to the future.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:56:19 PM): rather the rune specific to each one like a key to each one's person
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:56:40 PM): set them free to wander inside their own minds
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:56:55 PM): she is tied up at the moment
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:57:07 PM): one beast at at time please
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:57:11 PM): lol ok
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:57:27 PM): we need to make monkeys talk remember
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 6:57:40 PM): do you like this direction or no
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 6:58:06 PM): I like the idea of them each facing something
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:00:43 PM): I think we can go that direction for sure.
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:04:08 PM): You're quiet. Everything cool?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:05:28 PM): oh yeah...just thinking
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:05:38 PM): i like the eye stuff
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:05:43 PM): im stoked
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:05:58 PM): i love how we have discovered vectors together
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:06:54 PM): Yeah it's an interesting process
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:08:42 PM): question
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:09:21 PM): shoot
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:10:42 PM): where in the ritual and how do we download speech
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:11:44 PM): I figured they would each find an item in their dream that would carry them out and give them some knowledge.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:12:12 PM): a tangible object
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:12:20 PM): or just...
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:13:15 PM): Yeah a tangible object. We can add a scene where Graven briefs them on what to look for.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:14:12 PM): i likes and they carrie it with them always
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:14:29 PM): and it can be future stuff for sticky fingers to steal
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:15:08 PM): The item will do something different for each of them.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:16:27 PM): right
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:17:50 PM): Ok so after the visions they need to have a serious conversation
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:19:47 PM): yes
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:20:22 PM): What about exactly? Do they get some insight into graven? the masks? what?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:20:46 PM): thinking
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:20:53 PM): first themselves
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:21:03 PM): or they wont care about the others
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:21:27 PM): next graven and axis to build trust
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:21:31 PM): Maybe one of them could always talk, he just refused to because of something in his past.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:21:44 PM): thats good
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:22:49 PM): next their"mission"
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:22:58 PM): So Syrka's item could be a mirror or a reflective rock
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:24:23 PM): where does the artifact come from again
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:25:09 PM): From the future
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:25:36 PM): who makes it?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:26:00 PM): The AI from the future. I was thinking the name for the AI could be Soliton
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:26:11 PM): sweet
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:26:59 PM): could it be planted into one of their visions and be made to be believed that it is one of theirs...Adahn's?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:27:12 PM): traitor?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:27:15 PM): hmm
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:27:25 PM): the plot thickens?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:27:27 PM): Don't think we're there yet
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:27:35 PM): drat dar
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:27:37 PM): n
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:27:50 PM): durn dang
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:28:29 PM): At some point the AI gets what he needs from the past that allows him to transfer himself into an artificial soul
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:28:46 PM): thats nice
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:29:06 PM): can you teach me how to make one?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:29:11 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:30:05 PM): so what is the significance of a shiny mirror for syrka what does it do?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:31:02 PM): Not sure...maybe for a long time he refused to look at himself and maybe that's why he shattered glass all the time. I don't know
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:32:07 PM): Maybe he killed someone with his gift
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:32:24 PM): interesting
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:34:01 PM): what about Gaia and Veyn
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:34:43 PM): Gaia finds the world seed
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:35:05 PM): world seed? elaborate
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:36:05 PM): it is a composit seed of every plant that will ever exist on the planet earth in past present or future...
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:36:20 PM): That's a crazy idea
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:36:27 PM): she can call forth any mimosa or whatever
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:36:33 PM): crazy bad
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:37:30 PM): No. I was thinking more mundane though. Not magical items.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:37:47 PM): oh ok
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:38:04 PM): though i had had way to much coffee there for a sec
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:38:13 PM): I think we may use that seed idea elsewhere though
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:38:20 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:38:25 PM): shelve it for now
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:38:36 PM): how about a pocket comb
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:38:48 PM): all that sex messes her hur up
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:38:57 PM): she a sex bag
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:39:17 PM): She should get something that Graven treasures after she dies. So much so that he learns the year Siren goes to and waits for the year to follow
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:39:21 PM): bad forrest sorry
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:39:55 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:41:01 PM): you wanted more critters in our story right?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:41:17 PM): yes
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:41:29 PM): how about creepy spiders?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:41:41 PM): Spiders are overdone in fantasy books
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:42:01 PM): fag i have the perfect spider i have just done
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:42:06 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:42:21 PM): spiders are in lord of the rings and harry potter
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:42:27 PM): he is going on the blog anyway
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:42:40 PM): not as a main character you dork
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:42:59 PM): i would never make a spider talk
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:43:03 PM): the nerve
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:43:09 PM): of tolkien
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:43:13 PM): that jackass
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:43:28 PM): a pox on his house
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:43:32 PM): WHAT IF GAIA GETS A PET!
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:43:38 PM): BAZINGA!
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:43:48 PM): nay a pox on england! damn it
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:44:03 PM): What do you think of her getting a pet?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:44:24 PM): sure how about a spider
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:44:31 PM): :)
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:44:36 PM): ROFL!
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:44:39 PM): /slap
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:44:50 PM): name her Charlotte?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:44:54 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:44:57 PM): make her a web\
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:45:05 PM): Why don't we just call it the Wilbur Tree
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:45:18 PM): hells bent yes
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:45:29 PM): i am making that a t shirt btw
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:45:36 PM): hells bent yes!
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:45:46 PM): it'll be bigger than bill and ted
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:46:54 PM): making what a tshirt?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:49:21 PM): nvrm
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:49:31 PM): back on task
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:49:54 PM): go see spider on blog
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:50:43 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:51:08 PM): i have about 45 more minutes on line what would you like to get done?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:51:13 PM): I HATE BANANA SPIDERS!
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:51:23 PM): omg
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:51:33 PM): face your fears Gaia
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:51:38 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 7:51:41 PM): what you fear shall come to you
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:51:59 PM): ok so anyway let's flesh out what each sees and why
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:52:37 PM): Syrka finds a mirror [a reflective rock anyway] and encounters something from his past he is ashamed of
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:55:59 PM): What did he do.
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 7:56:56 PM): /poke forrest
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:00:35 PM): technical difficulties?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:01:26 PM): Wasn't aware let me reboot
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:03:13 PM): Restarting pc
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:03:28 PM): Continue I have my phone
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:05:21 PM): ok so what is he ashamed orf
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:06:19 PM): wow
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:06:25 PM): verizon SUCKS
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:06:30 PM): sorry
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:06:33 PM): lol ok?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:06:56 PM): as you were saying
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:07:11 PM): what is he ashamed of that he did in the past
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:07:59 PM): I was thinking maybe he killed someone on accident. You think that works?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:09:30 PM): it could
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:09:59 PM): did you have any thoughts about dimensional portals or did you get any of that
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:10:06 PM): did it not send?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:10:12 PM): I didn't get it
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:10:17 PM): crap
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:10:26 PM): it was like 4 long entries
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:10:30 PM): ok
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:10:45 PM): let me see if i can retrieve it in my head
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:10:51 PM): basically it is this
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:11:26 PM): what if it that what they bring back is an ability to access a place inside them that is able to teach
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:11:33 PM): not a material thing
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:11:40 PM): but a place inside
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:11:54 PM): an internal wellspring
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:12:04 PM): and it was about Gaia
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:12:11 PM): what if Gaia
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:12:22 PM): was unbeilieving at first
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:12:42 PM): but began to see her friends being changed by what was happening
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:12:51 PM): and saw the sincerity of it all
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:13:10 PM): and changed her mind and freely came back to the circle
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:13:25 PM): and grabbed Graven by the hand and said Graven I believe
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:13:38 PM): hmm
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:13:43 PM): I have lived and seen the stubburness od Syrka
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:13:48 PM): and I noe believe
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:13:54 PM): now
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:14:18 PM): Hmmm
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:14:24 PM): this place could teach them to speak
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:14:29 PM): among other thing
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:14:39 PM): like the matrix in a way
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:14:48 PM): but no comparison really
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:15:01 PM): Graven could still be a teacher too
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:15:12 PM): What if the crystal star he gave them is symbolic of more then what they thought. What if each prong on the star is a journey to the sphere at
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:15:15 PM): the center
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:15:57 PM): The sphere, symbolic of the Gaiasphere as well, is where they meet each other
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:16:23 PM): that works well
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:16:41 PM): and it will begin to mean many things as things progress
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:17:39 PM): i think if we ground it to one physical object we are going to paint ourselves into a corner
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:17:50 PM): Yeah I agree
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:18:01 PM): if we leave it as a portal and NOT go crazy with it
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:18:07 PM): meaning ME
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:18:13 PM): not go crazy with it
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:18:21 PM): i am asking you to ground me here
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:18:25 PM): we will be ok
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:18:45 PM): but one is a huge red flag
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:19:49 PM): Are you talking about a portal they can access any time?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:20:38 PM): i am creating a document as we write and i will send you whEn we complete our first novel i have titled questions to ask yourself while writing in general?
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:20:57 PM): just fyi...let me know if you want me to add anything to it
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:21:07 PM): ok
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:21:07 PM): i will post it to blog from time to time too
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:21:37 PM): it doesnt have to be at anytime
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:22:01 PM): but at certan times or at needed times in their lives
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:22:07 PM): what ever works
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:22:22 PM): What if it's a simple as a meeting place for all of them...as in any time they wish to seek each other it can be there...Graven could become
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:22:30 PM): addicted to this plane when she dies
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:22:40 PM): because she's still there even after death
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:22:40 PM): yes
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:22:46 PM): nice
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:23:30 PM): So each item is simply a key, particular to each one, that allows them access to this plane
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:24:40 PM): perfect
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:24:55 PM): i think Graven needs to take someting from this event too
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:25:07 PM): some new insight he did not have before
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:25:23 PM): and insight into Siren because she is going to show up
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:26:10 PM): maybe he discovers some way to track her that she can not understand that has nothing todo with technology...perhaps the plane
forrestjones2010 is typing a message.
forrestjones2010 (2/9/2010 8:27:01 PM): will you post this convo since i had to reboot?
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:27:05 PM): Maybe axis emits some kind of beacon
cagedmind0531 (2/9/2010 8:27:07 PM): yeah sure