convo 3.4.2010am

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forrestjones2010
back
cagedmind0531
cool beans.
This is some of the best stuff I have written I think
forrestjones2010
the orbs i imagined as energy mechanisms
which part
cagedmind0531
I've written like 4 pages since you last read
forrestjones2010
oh i thought you were talking about mine
cagedmind0531
Oh haha.
Don't be sad dear Forrest
forrestjones2010
you dont like my fetus
i cant help it i got knocked up ok
cagedmind0531
Ok let's go ahead and discuss this.
forrestjones2010
i am a tramp
discuss on
you are so to tha point
cagedmind0531
I don't want her wanting to get pregnant. I want her to stop them from killing the baby and then they offer her to carry it and she starts to
forrestjones2010
are you german
cagedmind0531
kinda cringe
One thing you totally forgot I bet
The baby
Has no soul
The Gaia tree took it's soul
forrestjones2010
how could the baby have no soul
ooooooohhhhhh
cagedmind0531
Remember when I wrote about the Gaia tree flower
forrestjones2010
well even better
a souless killer kills more efficiently
are you really tht against this idea
cagedmind0531
No. I'm just letting you know the realities of what we are facing if we do it.
Seriously I like the idea. I'm not bsing you.
forrestjones2010
if
Jason i do not get near this picky whith critique on my end
what gives
what is bsing?
cagedmind0531
I know ya don't. It's just part of us working together.
bullshitting
forrestjones2010
o
cagedmind0531
Let's just talk about Siren a sec though.
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
Didn't we want her to hate her human side? and isn't carrying a baby quite a bit human
It's probably the most human thing someone can do
forrestjones2010
she doesnt want to nanny out
she just wants to carry it birth it then she is done
she would not raise it
cagedmind0531
You are right I am being hard on you about this. I apologize. I just want us on the same page.
forrestjones2010
and in the future it wouldnt be 9 month
i just have to tell you that i would write allot more but it seems like you dont trust where i take things
cagedmind0531
You want her to have the baby so it gives her some odd tie to Graven. Is that right?
forrestjones2010
right
cagedmind0531
I like this idea. I trust you Forrest it's just sometimes I think you focus on your part and lose sight of things we already wrote about.
Like the baby not having a soul. Ya didn't think about that did ya
forrestjones2010
no i did not
cagedmind0531
That's all I am saying. You have a million things going on in your life. I eat, sleep, and breathe the Ind.
It stands to reason I would notice things you don't
forrestjones2010
yeah you're right
cagedmind0531
I want you writing more because honestly just me writing alone gets very weak at times
I have taken some liberties lately because you have been really busy
forrestjones2010
k
we can move on
cagedmind0531
Don't think for a minute I want to take over this. I swear I don't. I really need your writing.
forrestjones2010
i didnt think that
i just didnt feel trusted thats all
like what is this dumbass thinking
cagedmind0531
I trust you. Just next time tell me what you plan on writing and I'll let you know if it's consistent with what we've been doing
Or if there is something you forgot maybe
If I had as much as you do on my plate I'd be a wreck
forrestjones2010
thats the thing my creative process is different from yours in that regard
i dont know what i am going to write sometimes until i sit down
thats why i say throw it away if it doesnt work
i mean it
cagedmind0531
My job in this book is to reconcile our two styles to make the finish product as consistent as possible.
It's very difficult sometimes
forrestjones2010
i know...you are doing great too
i come straight outta low cash sometimes
cagedmind0531
low cash?
forrestjones2010
like bazinga nigga shazammmmm
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
what tha hell was that
cagedmind0531
I really love the technical aspects you bring to the writing. I can't do that. I don't know enough
Like the surgery and stuff. I knew you'd be good at that
forrestjones2010
rock
so the orbs are a loose reference to 2 things
cagedmind0531
I want this limitation you feel about me not trusting you lifted asap. I want to work with you, not around you.
capiche?
forrestjones2010
yes sir sargent sir
aye aye mate ey
cagedmind0531
ok reference to two things
shoot
forrestjones2010
1 a map of the earth at that time but that wont be mentioned
in detail anyway
cagedmind0531
interesting
forrestjones2010
because her heart is fr the planet
for
cagedmind0531
I caught that
forrestjones2010
and 2 etherians need an energy system sense they dont eat or drink
cagedmind0531
Yeah like a mini reactor
forrestjones2010
so i tied that to chakras
from the indian culture
cagedmind0531
I like that. So long as the reader understands what a chakra is. Might wanna make a small annotation about it.
forrestjones2010
so each orb could have a corresponding rune emblazened on it
cagedmind0531
They can't see runes though
forrestjones2010
i would not use the word chakra
right
orb will be used and dense spheres of energy
things like this but i based this off of these concepts
the reader wont read any of what i am telling you
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
i can wrap the surgery up in 3 or 4 more paragraphs
let me tell you why i like the baby better than kaylx being bducted
cagedmind0531
Kalyx is like 28 right now btw
forrestjones2010
i did not know 28 years would pass
the dramatic tension is gone
cagedmind0531
I didn't either
and you're right
forrestjones2010
if it were to have happened shortly after the death
cagedmind0531
Graven would have fallen apart
forrestjones2010
say a few weeks then bam missing baby
cagedmind0531
But it didn't
forrestjones2010
right
now we have mystery
baby
tie to siren
most important myth
brb
cagedmind0531
l
k
forrestjones2010
i got about 20 minutes or so
til 8ish
cagedmind0531
you wanna read what I wrote or wait till later tonight?
forrestjones2010
so now we have a stronger myth base
cagedmind0531
later would be better, let's work this out first
forrestjones2010
later
lets discuss a bit more
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
or do we need to?
cagedmind0531
let's work it out a bit
Let's rework it a bit though to make Siren reluctant to do it, but it's either that or the baby dies kinda thing
That would make me happy
One potential problem with this baby situation
I was planning on the abduction being later in the book.
Because
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
The climax of the book happens later. If the AI has the baby now though...
Why not go to the gaia tree and do it now
Does he not think to use the babies ether maybe?
forrestjones2010
The modus of AI is to collect weapons to store them for potential use in the future
not to use them now necessarily
i think AI doenst think about the scenario unti later
much later
because it has no soul
cagedmind0531
If it has no soul that could be a reason to abduct Kalyx...
I didn't think about that
forrestjones2010
how could something with no soul help him creat a soul is what he/it is thinking
there you are
kaylx is still needed
or perhaps kaylx is somehow attracted to Lotus and seeks her out
cagedmind0531
Maybe Lotus can't help because she has no soul and then later in some epifany the AI realizes why her Ether won't work.
forrestjones2010
oh
idea
there is another function of the chakras
One Etherian can track or feel another one with in a certain plane or viccinity
like magnets
cagedmind0531
Are you cool with changing her to being reluctant btw?
forrestjones2010
ofcourse
cagedmind0531
ok cool
forrestjones2010
she is a bitch
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
why would she be cuddly
i have had a blast fuck day thanks for your patience
cagedmind0531
So he takes the babies ether. Siren tests it again. It fails. This time because she has no soul the tree reaacts violently
forrestjones2010
sweet
cagedmind0531
Siren has an oh shit experience
the tree is trying to kill her
if it gets a hold of her she's dead
blast fuck day?
forrestjones2010
meaning it was good but it was extremely jam packed with many moving parts
cagedmind0531
gotcha
forrestjones2010
plus i just like to type the f word some times
cagedmind0531
lol
By the way
forrestjones2010
makes me feel like the fonzy
cagedmind0531
brace yourself
150 pages
forrestjones2010
wowsers
no way
cagedmind0531
yes way
forrestjones2010
sweet black jesus onions batman
cagedmind0531
My copy is at 73 pages and I haven't added yours yet
73.5 pages I mean
forrestjones2010
thats half way
cagedmind0531
it surely is
forrestjones2010
we are writers
fo realz
cagedmind0531
haha
Just curious. Do you know how much money an average selling book pays the writer?
Just curious
forrestjones2010
no clue
but i have started making calls on the marketing end of things aready
today i called barnes and noble
just local author promotion stuf
cagedmind0531
You realize if we write at the rate we are writing now we will be done with a rough copy by June
forrestjones2010
June was the target i had in mind
Pubished by December
cagedmind0531
I can tell you write now that I can easily write 4 pages a day if we have it worked out
Working the chapters out is the time consumer
forrestjones2010
i am good at that part
right?
cagedmind0531
yes
very
forrestjones2010
i love that part actually
cagedmind0531
Yeah I love the back and forth of it
forrestjones2010
i have tons of this stuff and other stories back logged up there
me too
lets go all the way with this and we can continue on man
cagedmind0531
by the way if there are orbs in the body
have them have nerves all through them or something
Yeah I'm psyched
forrestjones2010
ok
any other body parts you want
i took it easy on the glands
cagedmind0531
glands are fine. write what you know
forrestjones2010
although i have to write about the vajay jay
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
Gaia's va jay jay was smoking
cagedmind0531
rofl
I am officially disturbed
Color me disturbed
forrestjones2010
that'll sell an extra 20k copies and reach into the 13 year old crowd
f
do
e
os
m
l
mk
cagedmind0531
ROFL
forrestjones2010
right
cagedmind0531
hi tish
forrestjones2010
no joke
moving on
looks like i get to stay online tish got on line
cagedmind0531
Oh I was thinking also that he could use the orbs to power the artifact later
forrestjones2010
so when does that come on the scene
cagedmind0531
After the scalping or whatever
forrestjones2010
i cant wait
cagedmind0531
yeah the end of the book should be interesting
So Chapter 9
forrestjones2010
this book is scaring me how good it is
cagedmind0531
That's good news. But we aren't exactly our harshest critics
One element that concerns me is developing future Graven
He needs half a chapter or so
soon
forrestjones2010
he does
hey gotta run...or walk the dogs rather...be on later
cagedmind0531
k laters
forrestjones2010
sup?
cagedmind0531
Not much, ready to get some work done?
forrestjones2010
yes
cagedmind0531
Have fun getting walked by the dogs? lol
forrestjones2010
the mastiff i have no patiance with so i walk the rot
tish gets the ox
she likes pain
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
lets work
cagedmind0531
K the latest is posted on the RD site
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
You wanna edit tonight or just read?
forrestjones2010
i am flexible wahtch need
cagedmind0531
Just edit as ya go
forrestjones2010
k
on eoti right?
cagedmind0531
yes
forrestjones2010
k
starting
she understands completely.
28 years and she isnt mad at all
cagedmind0531
Good point. I will get to that later in the story.
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
Coral is basically playing ignorant right now
forrestjones2010
gotcha
cagedmind0531
That may need to be changed later though. I'll make a note of it
So you know I have 2 backups of the writing on my computer and I just mailed myself another one.
I need to put one on a disk
forrestjones2010
email me what you have now
i havent gotten a revision lately
cagedmind0531
Sent'
forrestjones2010
k
within 27 minutes the
will you change this to 49 minutes
?
cagedmind0531
sure...
any reason?
forrestjones2010
it is a buddist belief
but it is 49 days
any buddist would catch it and say "right on"
cagedmind0531
haha
forrestjones2010

i wasnt just being a jerk was i?
cagedmind0531
Let me know if you find that number again so I can correct it
No...
forrestjones2010
k
cus i think i may have been a jerk earlier...sorry if i was
cagedmind0531
Nah it's cool. No more then I was
forrestjones2010
when you work this close with someone you care about you just have to be careful
cagedmind0531
aye
forrestjones2010
the last thing i want to do is offend you
cagedmind0531
I really can't be offended. In fact I wish you were a bit harsher a critic
forrestjones2010
what is Vyskara mean?
cagedmind0531
random word
forrestjones2010
i like the word
cagedmind0531
haha
forrestjones2010
it has character seems like sanskrit
or something old
cagedmind0531
I thought it sounded too much like Mascara when I first wrote it
rofl
forrestjones2010
no it works well
so one soul is one character like chinese
thats elegant
i like
do we want to call it a "secret" society out right?
cagedmind0531
not sure, thoughts?
forrestjones2010
i would put this in parenthisis to come back to later
first inclination is to say no
cagedmind0531
I mean they aren't supposed to tell anyone about it so whether we say it or not there it is
forrestjones2010
right...let it establish itself as a secret
qestion
cagedmind0531
shoot
forrestjones2010
he has not told coral where he has gotten the book
or has he
cagedmind0531
hmmm
forrestjones2010
she said she was blind
cagedmind0531
I figured it was assumed because it was what she wrote. I mean she may be blind but she knew she wrote something
forrestjones2010
you wrote that yesterday right?
cagedmind0531
I don't remember. Either yesterday or today
forrestjones2010
k
so coral knows she wrote the book?
cagedmind0531
If I wasn't clear on that I need to be. I'll correct it.
forrestjones2010
my understanding is that she does not know she wrote the book
is my understanding correct?
cagedmind0531
Hmm I don't know honestly
forrestjones2010
give me a sec i will brb
back
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
i would like to see her not know much of what she wrote
but anywho moving on
cagedmind0531
I noted it
You know what's kind of funny
forrestjones2010
k
what that
cagedmind0531
Syrka.. When we first wrote him he was a secretive character
Now suddenly the perfect role arrives for him and he is the only one with a major part till now
Eerie
forrestjones2010
hmmmm
cagedmind0531
*without a major part
forrestjones2010
Syrka responded well to his appointment while the three others seemed more confused then anything else.
then=than
There were chirping sounds coming from the forest...
uh huh
cagedmind0531
uh huh?
forrestjones2010
there were chirping sounds coming from forest.
lol
nevermind
cagedmind0531
I'm lost
rofl
Is that too corny?
forrestjones2010
no
Grimorum
is that a real bee?
cagedmind0531
No
forrestjones2010
nice work
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
so i guess Kalypsian isnt either
cagedmind0531
nope surely not
forrestjones2010
the gods will surely hang us by the rafters
cagedmind0531
I bet book nerds everywhere will be pulling out their wikipedias
There is no Grimorum Bee! what the hell!
forrestjones2010
no doubt...great words btw
i made up the word libraric
one day
and someone was like
thats nota word
i said go to hell it is
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
anyways
cagedmind0531
I don't really like using made up words unless they are pronouns.
Pronouns I figure it doesn't matter
forrestjones2010
lol
weirdo
i'll bastardize anything i am no purist...give me photoshop i can get the red out
cagedmind0531

forrestjones2010
they need an oath
the Eoti def need an oath
cagedmind0531
We already had an oath in the book
The oath of community or whatever.
forrestjones2010
but this is a secret soc.
cagedmind0531
With the star and all that
forrestjones2010
whats a sec soc without an oath?
cagedmind0531
If you want to write one go for it
forrestjones2010
that simply will not do
i will
cagedmind0531
It better not have any pregnancies in it though
rofl
forrestjones2010
drat
we can build subcultures and haloween myths on top of these guys
and devil worship
and all manners of evil are their fault
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
these are the bad guys...they killed lady diana and michel jackson
cagedmind0531
Did you think the 4th member was corny? His father dying of a heart attack when he was born?
forrestjones2010
i want these guys around in the 6000's when Solomon is full steampunk ahead
no
i like the whole concept...they are everything that will be Macabre
cagedmind0531
Yeah we can tinker with em for sure
forrestjones2010
lots of poential
you see all the pockets we are opening now...you know what they really are?
cagedmind0531
?
forrestjones2010
in themselves they are novels for later
cagedmind0531
conceivably
forrestjones2010
they are
i could stay in a whole just that size for 3 to 6 months
the visuals are bright too
lots of drawings
ok what next?
cagedmind0531
How far did you get?
forrestjones2010
the ind of Eoti.
oh i am copyrighting tommorow btw
i finally have the cash to do it
cagedmind0531
You read the up to where siren vanishes?
That's cool
forrestjones2010
With that the Eoti were formed. A secret organization bent on completing the second book of IND one character at a time. The Eoti became a mystery in Axium. Often and quite randomly the masked people would show up and all knew there was the stench of death to be found. It was almost as if they were the harbringers of death itself. Over the years it became second nature to the Eoti, it was even rumoured that the masked ones could feel death coming.
that is the last thing i read
cagedmind0531
Keep going
forrestjones2010
k
It is a safe of stone design etched in nearly perfectly scribed runes and smoothed to the finish of glass.
near perfect
something isnt working here
cagedmind0531
hmmm
forrestjones2010
The auctioneer gestured over the symbol and the finer points of the safe and it's seemless construction but Siren was more interested in the contents then the vault itself.
then=than
cagedmind0531
It is a safe of stone design etched in nearly perfectly scribed runes. The texture is that of polished glass.
forrestjones2010
its the 2 adverbs
near perfect runes
cagedmind0531
ah ok
forrestjones2010
did you see the then=than?
cagedmind0531
yeah, looking for it
got it
forrestjones2010
She stripped right there before Feinburg careless as if the pretense was gone from their relationship,
carelessly
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
,
The suit bending
bent
The safe already deposited in the armored truck outside.

the safe "was"
nice work sir
love that sassy Siren
so who is da hooded dude?
cagedmind0531
That scene was kind of hot huh?You should be impressed

forrestjones2010
i was
cagedmind0531
The hooded figure was Syrka
forrestjones2010
you can write Siren well my friend
Syrka
interesting
cagedmind0531
He's the guardian of the Eoti
forrestjones2010
Siren is gonna whopp that
cagedmind0531
Now I get to write a scene where she robs a moving armored truck
forrestjones2010
whoooop whooooop
nice
cagedmind0531
I can't figure out how to do it or I would have written it already
forrestjones2010
hope she doesnt hurt the baby
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
maby she can shoot the kid out of her uterus and then...
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
gross i said uterus
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
so whats next?
cagedmind0531
Figuring out the baby stuff. When is it born. Does she just have it inside a day or two or what. Cause Siren is about to hijack a truck
thoughts?
forrestjones2010
you go hijack away...i'll take car of this nockup slut puppy
i just emailed this to a friend of mine check it out
i prefer to receive real email from real people...dont send me forwords...only people who suck send forwards...this is your first warning
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
i just gave him my email adress a few days ago
if he forwardss me crap i am going to go bomb his house i swear
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
the venezeualan bastard
cagedmind0531
So chapter 9
lol
forrestjones2010
i'll show him chazez
yeah so anyway
yeah 9
cagedmind0531
hmm
Who watches the kid while Siren's on missions? Uncle Feiny?
forrestjones2010
shut your pie whole
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
you have no idea how Solomon United Rols
Roles
she is already out of the picture
cryogenically frozen off in some body bank
cagedmind0531
Ok so what the hell happens in chapter 9. We have a secret society.
forrestjones2010
or being trained in a nunery assasin home
cagedmind0531
rofl
forrestjones2010
ch is a pivot chapter
cagedmind0531
cause it's in the middle of the book?
forrestjones2010
but is it really in the middle though?
thats the ?
cagedmind0531
um...
good question
forrestjones2010
if its a 500 page book and we end it at 320
we are idiots
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
where are we on our timeline?
we are in age 2
are we halfway into 2?
or at the end of 2?
cagedmind0531
About 2/5 of the way. Beginning of Age 2.
We always have our ace in the hole. Iboga.
forrestjones2010
so then we truely are about halfway
we have lots of aces
cagedmind0531
What if Coral dies
forrestjones2010
what do we need her for?
cagedmind0531
em community leader
forrestjones2010
we could always start a chamber of commerce for that
cagedmind0531
What if
forrestjones2010
so what are the major arcs that need to take place between now and the end
go ahead
cagedmind0531
There start to be riots because people are starting to die of old age. Something that never happened before when they were Etherians
They know their loved ones live on but it's not enough
forrestjones2010
how does that fit in to Forge?
we need to build something?
cagedmind0531
Well this era is what turned them human.
forrestjones2010
true
cagedmind0531
We just built a gaiasphere structure
forrestjones2010
and we do need some graveyards and funerals
and plagues
and general mayhem
cagedmind0531
For the first time in Etherian history a graveyard is needed
Before people used to live to be 3-400 years old
So by the time one person died the other person had already decomposed
forrestjones2010
so yes this does need to be addressed
cagedmind0531
So Coral tries to keep people composed. Saying it was the price they paid to beat the curse.
So basically the reality of mortality shit hits the fan
One of the Eoti is killed
By a mob
yes/no?
forrestjones2010
so yeah some time does need to be addressed
no Eoti is secret
they go undetected
cagedmind0531
Well the organization is just formed though. It's possible one of them got careless and got seen and since they are associated with death...
It's only natural they would be a scapegoat for the problems of a mortal people
just ideas
forrestjones2010
right
dog attack
i am listening
cagedmind0531
This would be a good spot for a dirge, like a song about death that the people begin to sing.
forrestjones2010
i have several
one made it to chicago recently
cagedmind0531
cool
forrestjones2010
won 2nd place in a national contest
cagedmind0531
That's awesome
forrestjones2010
you can buy it on itunes
cagedmind0531
cool
forrestjones2010
its funny sometimes this dog will not let me get on the computer
he is like you will play with me now
cagedmind0531
Ok so Graven is away or something. On a retreat with his daughter. To get to know her. They go on a trip together.
While they are gone this death movement starts
forrestjones2010
when the time comes remind me and we can pull that song it is call Dancing Inside of the Death March
it would fit perfect here and my frieds band is top notch
cagedmind0531
It's not too long is it?
forrestjones2010
standard song
cagedmind0531
k cool
What if they capture Syrka in the future
as the siren part of the chapter
or should we just leave that to idle for a while
forrestjones2010
wha do you mean leave it to idle?
cagedmind0531
Go away from the siren scene for a bit
or stick with the 1/2 and 1/2 thing we have going?
forrestjones2010
i think it would be interesting id syrka were captured
cagedmind0531
I figure he could get tortured and killed
By Peyton
We need to start establishing Peyton as the antagonist not just of graven but of the world
forrestjones2010
ah so she is back to kill mode
her true self
blood thirsty
cagedmind0531
That will really throw people for a loop after she saved a baby
forrestjones2010
i do love a neurotic psychopath
cagedmind0531
You know I mean capturing future Syrka right?
Not past Syrka.
forrestjones2010
yes
cagedmind0531
k
Ok so what else happens
I can't make that an entire chapter
Not quite enough
forrestjones2010
i would like to discuss large arcs for a moment
cagedmind0531
ok
forrestjones2010
what really large arcs still need to occur
the scalping
cagedmind0531
yes?
forrestjones2010
what else
cagedmind0531
Asimov turning into a tangible villain
Graven survives the scalping and tries to finish the book
forrestjones2010
thinking
cagedmind0531
by the way do you need to get to bed? it's getting late
forrestjones2010
no i was distracted with a picture
i am good for now
you?
cagedmind0531
yeah I'm good
forrestjones2010
sometimes i gimp when we talk
cagedmind0531
haha
forrestjones2010
ok
we need
graven development
we need
kaylx developement
Eoti dev
cagedmind0531
we will remember they are going on a trip
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
So what happens on their trip
forrestjones2010
thats weird 28 years old first time to see pop
pick nick dad
hay i know you been in a cave an all for a while
but uh
how is that crazy book deal ya ot
cagedmind0531
Well she's really resentful at first then something happens where graven almost dies or she almost dies or something and she realizes how much
she loves him and vice versa
forrestjones2010
hmmmmmm
cagedmind0531
Axis has had no parts lately either
Which is kind of troublesome. I'll need to make that an issue. "I have been silent a long time Graven....yadiyadi
forrestjones2010
he needs to speak
i have been thinking that
here is something i dont want to happen
cagedmind0531
ok
forrestjones2010
action or writing for the sake of action or writing
cagedmind0531
Yeah
In other words don't give axis lines just to give him lines, make there be a reason for it
forrestjones2010
if we are not pushing the story forward why not
the whole chapter
thats why we need to take pause and look at where we are and where we need to go
cagedmind0531
What is the goal of their trip?
forrestjones2010
to get her kidnapped i would say
bottom line is we dont give a rip about her
we want his emotional response a deepening of character as protagonist
unless our goal is to in part round her out evenly also
cagedmind0531
No. I don't want her to be a big character. At least I don't think I do.
What if Coral dies and her last request is that they spread her ashes to the four corners of the forest
Or what if it's an extended mission to ascertain whether the Gaia tree has spread it's influence beyond the forest
forrestjones2010
she can die...she played her part for me
in truth she kind of bugs
old crone bag
if we could possibly name a chapter something like this
"Dance With Me Black Through This Murder of Crows"
random thought
i have been dying to use that somewhere
cagedmind0531
hmmm
forrestjones2010
whose extended mission?
cagedmind0531
Why would they go on a trip, there needs to be an additional reason. You don't just say 'let's go on a trip so I can get to know you'
That's corny
Kalyx and Graven
What if the Eoti need more paper. I don't know.
bah
forrestjones2010
yeah a reason is paramount
cagedmind0531
Got it
What if it's the annivesary of Gaia's death.
They want to honor her memory by obtaining a rare flower
forrestjones2010
a Lotus
cagedmind0531
That works.
What happens on their trip
That creates a problem
forrestjones2010
the energy in his chakras is so intense due to being in the cell so long it throws hers out of allignment and causes her to be very sick
cagedmind0531
that's a mouthful
kinda reaching
hmmm
forrestjones2010
yeah
i cant come up with much the whole trip thing is just weak
scrap it
cagedmind0531
Well the trip served 2 purposes
forrestjones2010
lets start there
cagedmind0531
One was to unite her and her dad again.
forrestjones2010
what
cagedmind0531
The other was to leave Coral alone in Axium to deal with Riots
forrestjones2010
ok are we sure we want to go from utopic to dystopic in a few pages
thats a huge transition
i agree with you they do die now
cagedmind0531
Well we don't need riots. Maybe we just need people learning to deal with death
forrestjones2010
do we want to be graphic and morbid and everthing just flat out falls the hell apart and we just built it
cagedmind0531
No. Let's just make the chapter kind of a solemn realization of reality
forrestjones2010
i keep falling back to our guiding light
FORGE
cagedmind0531
Kind of like communism
forrestjones2010
right
make death all plastic and foreign
it always happens to "the others"
cagedmind0531
We can just reaffirm at the end of the chapter that without death there is no appreciation of life.
forrestjones2010
i think the 2 points that the trip needed to adress could be done easily by the community
cagedmind0531
What do you mean?
forrestjones2010
kaylx and graven can reunite through community events
how about a Festival
cagedmind0531
What if the Gaia tree gets sick from when Siren experiments on it in the future
forrestjones2010
ok
cagedmind0531
random idea
forrestjones2010
how would that effect the past though?
cagedmind0531
the tree transcends time
forrestjones2010
now he tells me
cagedmind0531
lol
just making this up
forrestjones2010
i know this
cagedmind0531
actually that won't work
scrap it
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
wait nvm...it could work. If Siren tests the new soulless sample...I don't know
forrestjones2010
what did you think of a ceremony honoring gaia's death
cagedmind0531
By the way we are ahead right now. I still haven't finished 8.
forrestjones2010
ahead of what?
cagedmind0531
Um a festival huh
could work
the festival could take place over several days
day 1, so and so
day 2 so and so
forrestjones2010
i am ready to see the artifact
zarathustra
cagedmind0531
I am honestly drawing a blank tonight
bah
forrestjones2010
the scalping
its no biggie
you have done a ton
and very nice work too sir
the EOTI
cagedmind0531
ty, likewise
forrestjones2010
stuff is top notch
yeah mine is dirty pregnant slutty puppy
cagedmind0531
It would be nice to carry the Eoti stuff over to the next chapter and not just kill it immediately
forrestjones2010
then lets do that becaus there is allot there
adress graven and the daughter issue
make it believable
arc back into Eoti
cagedmind0531
where would the eoti come in?'
how?
forrestjones2010
the beauty of that is all that has to happen is
somebody dies
whack em
cagedmind0531
What if
coral dies and her soulprint or whatever is different
forrestjones2010
i like this
cagedmind0531
It's special somehow and it triggers something
forrestjones2010
go on
cagedmind0531
hmm...not sure
It's a solid direction
ideas?
forrestjones2010
it physically looks different right
cagedmind0531
or something
maybe instead of a letter it gives a page
and that page tells something important
forrestjones2010
what if it is 3 dimensional and it emits sound
its a picture of the Soliton
cagedmind0531
Yeah but how would that move the chapter forward
forrestjones2010
just throuwing up
its a picture of the scalping
and a date
cagedmind0531
How would that affect things in a way that moves the chapter
forrestjones2010
that moves the whole book
which is even better
now we are out of the rut
traction
cagedmind0531
What would I write about?
forrestjones2010
now you have people if you publish
that say
what do we do
how do we pre pare
how far away is it
btw how far away is it?
cagedmind0531
But the Deathprints are secret remember
Couple thousand years I think
forrestjones2010
i know but if Graven knows something that is going to kill 1/3 of the world pop...he is going to save them if he can
he is the hero
ok so its not tommorow
you win back to moving this chapter
cagedmind0531
see what I mean?
forrestjones2010
FORGE
cagedmind0531
It's a great idea but what do I write about
forrestjones2010
got to be building something
cagedmind0531
ok so in the chapter we have 2 arcs, people learning about death at the same time corral's death triggers some revelation
forrestjones2010
The EOTI building their Craft
yes
cagedmind0531
ok so two things now. How does she die and what is the revelation
forrestjones2010
you write the craft i will write the festival
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
i think the revelation should be the scalping
in part at least
cagedmind0531
make the festival start off by acknowledging death and then over days move toward life
New theme every day
forrestjones2010
k
include Lotus in the revelation somehow
i think i will base the festival loosely on an egyptian death motiff
cagedmind0531
What if
The message concerns one of the Eoti being a murderer
random thought
forrestjones2010
nah
cagedmind0531
let's see
Could always have it talking about Iboga. I know I keep going back to that, just saying
forrestjones2010
i got maybe 10 to 15 more good minute in me
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
you could
cagedmind0531
the son shall surpass the mother in deaths beyond what she brought in life
or something
forrestjones2010
nice
cagedmind0531
He could crash the festival
forrestjones2010
we are missing something major
wht is it
cagedmind0531
Dont forget to include his daughter and him in the festival btw
forrestjones2010
its like a major character or a major event that is missing
cagedmind0531
not that I can see
forrestjones2010
do you feel that way or is it just late for me
ok
i have this dark feeling that something has been neglected
something big
cagedmind0531
We have plenty of time.
No rush
forrestjones2010
i know
before i start something new i have to tie up the scene i need to finish
then i will join you back over here
cagedmind0531
sounds good
forrestjones2010
i need to get some rest for now though
cagedmind0531
alrighty man. Have a good night
forrestjones2010
hope some of the\at helped
u2
cagedmind0531
it did
forrestjones2010
good talking to you my friend
cagedmind0531
ditto