convo 3.10.10 with jason

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forrestjones2010
1 2 3 and to tha fo
snoop doggy dog and dr dre' is at tha doe
cagedmind0531
lol
So we gotta do something with chapter 9
forrestjones2010
straight to it huh
cagedmind0531
It's been bugging me all weekend
forrestjones2010
lets role
where are we
cagedmind0531
Siren just robbed an armored car and graven and the Eoti just got started
Kalyx and her dad need to get to know each other somehow
forrestjones2010
robbed an armored car to obtain what item?
cagedmind0531
The vault with the candle in it and the other Eoti stuff
forrestjones2010
oh right
cagedmind0531
They may or may not have kidnapped Syrka. I haven't written it yet
We were discussing coral dying and leaving behind a deathprint that means something or does something possibly
We decided what I wrote for chapter 9 was pretty dry
forrestjones2010
k
thinking
i think there are to many people in the mix for clear focus
knock some out
cagedmind0531
Like who and how?
forrestjones2010
who do you feel most passionate about
at the moment
siren or g and kaylx
or syrka and kaylx
oops
syrka and Eoti?
cagedmind0531
I guess that would be incorporating the Eoti somehow into the death of Coral and kalyx and graven having some kind of relationship
forrestjones2010
break the chapter into 3 parts
cagedmind0531
Oh sidenote
My friend printed out the book and he said he is getting his red pen out for tonight
forrestjones2010
third third third
k
good
cagedmind0531
First person I have had print it out
forrestjones2010
thats good
i have givien out 2 hard copies
15 soft copies
no feed back
cagedmind0531
You gave them hard copies and they still didn't read it?
forrestjones2010
yes
cagedmind0531
That's fucking lame
forrestjones2010
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canan is here with me
sorry
cagedmind0531
np
So we could start the chapter with Coral was dying.
why is she dying
If she is dying anyway. That isn't written in stone
forrestjones2010
she has fulfilled her purpose
ushering in the goddess
cagedmind0531
Ok that's the reason I imagined as well
Before she passes she warns that Iboga isn't dead, and he won't stop till he has the eye.
Iboga will attack during the last day of the festival and will nearly kill Graven, but Graven delivers the deathblow to Iboga as he finally gets the eye
His purpose fulfilled Iboga turns into a malevolent spirit
He's denied entry by the Gaia tree as a soul
forrestjones2010
k
nice
cagedmind0531
My friend is already criticizing the first page. This is great
Ok so what may be difficult to fill in is the the time leading up to the festival, when does Coral die. What does her deathprint say.
forrestjones2010
thinking
cagedmind0531
I was thinking it could show Iboga as a wraith, killing someone or something
forrestjones2010
uh uh
keep going
more fundamental than that
cagedmind0531
What do you mean?
forrestjones2010
something that speaks to how the unirese is tied together or an age shift
something large
arent we shifting right now?
cagedmind0531
If we can but I don't think we should force anything. Iboga having a soul is a pretty big shift
But then again it doesn't move the overall arc
It just kills time
forrestjones2010
what are two words that mean X and Y
we are moving from what to wht gain?
from what to what again
cagedmind0531
I don't know, but alluding to the scalping several thousand years before it happens may be odd. Or...maybe if the deathprint alludes to it and the eoti create a chronical of the scalping or something
forrestjones2010
thats not what i meant
what age are we shifting from ether to spirit
?
cagedmind0531
yes
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
There? The net went out
forrestjones2010
just woke
cagedmind0531
You nap or something?
forrestjones2010
yep
im up now
cagedmind0531
I napped too lol
forrestjones2010
ahhhh
we lazy
lol
cagedmind0531

forrestjones2010
wrtin is hard work i tell ya
cagedmind0531
ok so where were we before we nodded off
What does her deathprint say
forrestjones2010
Corals deathprint
cagedmind0531
aye
odd this is giving us so much trouble
forrestjones2010
give me a little bit i need to make a phone call
cagedmind0531
ok sir
forrestjones2010
its not really that difficult
i just have a ton going on around me
give me a sec
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
be back later unexpected guests
sup
http://www.nbcdfw.com/around-town/events/Flaming-Lips-to-Play-Dentons-NX35-Fest-79671807.html
cagedmind0531
I'm here what's kickin
forrestjones2010
not a lot getting ready for a meeting
cagedmind0531
I am selling my soul and getting a gym membership
forrestjones2010
say it aint so
cagedmind0531
I really need one...but 2 years is such a frickin long contract
forrestjones2010
dont do a contract
gross icky
cagedmind0531
I can't afford to get it without one
forrestjones2010
f those hookers
cagedmind0531
it's 20 dollars more a month for 1 year
and even more then that for monthly
forrestjones2010
douche baggery
cagedmind0531
But I'm so fat and lazy...
forrestjones2010
fancy patz gangstars
pants
cagedmind0531
Sigh. This is making me a nervous wreck.
forrestjones2010
beth put you up to it?
cagedmind0531
No. I want to do it for me.
forrestjones2010
wow...i have a membership
dont use it enough
cagedmind0531
Yeah that's my main concern...
forrestjones2010
it happens
cagedmind0531
24 a month isn't that bad but the upfront fee sucks
forrestjones2010
what is the up front?
cagedmind0531
100 plus first and last month
forrestjones2010
148
yeah thats steep
whore birds
cagedmind0531
They have a pool though and it's really important to my brother
forrestjones2010
have you seen a preview to the legend of the guardians?
cagedmind0531
Yeah it looks cool
forrestjones2010
it freaked me out at first
i saw bird
i saw mask
and i saw trees
cagedmind0531
rofl
forrestjones2010
i said noooooooooooooooooo
the bastardsssssssssss
cagedmind0531
rofl
forrestjones2010
the horrorrrrrrr
cagedmind0531
Those were not masks though
They were helmets
forrestjones2010
well then i am of
thnks
whew
(wipes sweat off brow)
(speaks pig latin under breath)
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
(writes something on big chief tablet with red crayola)
cagedmind0531
lol
So I wrote 3 ish pages yesterday
Where were you punk?
forrestjones2010
i got on around 230
cagedmind0531
Yeah I was already asleep. That's 3:30 here
It's not a big deal. Just let me know. You had told me 10ish
forrestjones2010
yeah well home life is not so charming at the moment
cagedmind0531
I'm sorry man. You and Tish still fighting?
We don't have to talk about it but it might make you feel better.
forrestjones2010
i am sick of talking about it
time to move on
cagedmind0531
Move on? You mean as in divorce?
Or just done talking about the argument?
forrestjones2010
no i mean move the conversation on to something brighter
i have to leave in a few minutes
meeting at 5 and i have to drive there
cagedmind0531
Oh well in regards to what I wrote. I hope it's not dry. I rewrote chapter 9
I'm sorry I was prying by the way man. I'm just worried about you.
forrestjones2010
no you are fine
i am an open book to you anythime jason
cagedmind0531
You have alot of meetings at this job
Do they actually solve anything?
forrestjones2010
all day long homey i am in high demand...everybody wants to see jonsey
cagedmind0531
ha
Maybe you can be my financial advisor. What do I do with my money Forrest!
rofl
forrestjones2010
i have a new reader in dallas btw
cagedmind0531
Cool
forrestjones2010
will you email me just chapter 1?
cagedmind0531
Just chapter 1?
forrestjones2010
hey from now on just send people one chapter at a time until they let you know the y have read it
yes just one
cagedmind0531
Sent
forrestjones2010
ty
gotta go
cagedmind0531
laters
forrestjones2010
mornings
cagedmind0531
morning
My reader is pulling through
forrestjones2010
nice
good input then i take it
cagedmind0531
He's started on chapter 1 today and he's giving me some criticism
One. He wishes he knew the main character a bit better, but he's just starting.
forrestjones2010
good
cagedmind0531
Two. I used the speaking in unison too many times but he liked it actually. I just need to remove once or twice
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
Three he thinks Graven would be going more nuts then he did if the thing hit his eye
Mostly typing these now so I remember them
forrestjones2010
perhaps
np
cagedmind0531
So I have a bit for chapter 3 and I wrote in Siren's robbery of the armored car.
forrestjones2010
nice
cagedmind0531
Posted under Siren's Robbery and Chapter 9 start on the rough draft site
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
edit as ya go?
forrestjones2010
will explain
emily: rocktease@gmail.com
or fb if itll let the message go long enough
either or
gmail i suppose is the easiest
whatever is easiest for you
i just needed to grab that of of gmail IM for a sec
she is another reader in dallas
i read her stuff sometimes
cagedmind0531
So she is obligated? mwhahaha
forrestjones2010
she is a friend of Blinky's
indeed
cagedmind0531
The robbery came more naturally then when I first tried to write it this time.
Also Chapter 9 should be alot better then last time. I put in some drugs and sex
forrestjones2010
drugs and sex make everything nice
cagedmind0531
apparently
forrestjones2010
ok ch1 sent to emily scopas
i think by sendin ch 1 less of a task is presented
cagedmind0531
Well I have another reader who is an electrical engineer but he is like on 12 hr shifts for 2 weeks and has 2 kids
forrestjones2010
and if people just aren't readers we will know not to send more so we wonr waste our time sending more
cagedmind0531
So he'll be a few weeks
aye
forrestjones2010
taking chances on our good content floating around un hyperspace with no condom on
as of yet anyway
cagedmind0531
haha yeah
forrestjones2010
ok i am going to pull up site and read now
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
its the freshesh entry?
cagedmind0531
yes
By the way feel free to promise mention in the book for readers
As in...special thanks to etc etc
forrestjones2010
sure
cagedmind0531
I'm ready to edit soon as ya throw things my way
forrestjones2010
k
Very gently and silently the invisible Siren dropped
Gentle and silent an invisible Siren
truck.
her suit diverting the light and thus concealing her movements.
Her suit diverted the light and conceald her movement.
cagedmind0531
done, done, done
forrestjones2010
or Her suit diverted the light concealing her movement.
a cold lifeless friendship
a cold lifeless friendship
cagedmind0531
?
forrestjones2010
attatchement too
or stronger word than friendship
cagedmind0531
Yeah that was kind of an oxymoron anyway
forrestjones2010
she became an extension of each lieless alloy she daunted
just a thought
cagedmind0531
Anything electronic she felt a kindredship with, a cold lifeless attachment. She became an extension of each lifeless alloy she plied.
forrestjones2010
nice
cagedmind0531
lifeless was used twice. I'll fix that
forrestjones2010
you my friend are a lexophile
devoid of life
cagedmind0531
each dead alloy
that work?
forrestjones2010
yes
cagedmind0531
inane is better
forrestjones2010
the trigger apparently being a soft whisper in the sound proof armored room, the soft whisper from the air passing by from the hole Siren drilled.
yes
the trigger was a soft whisper
cagedmind0531
fixed
It was semi difficult to make this so elaborate and interesting.
forrestjones2010
A laser materialized out of thin air, the tool itself as well as Siren concealed by the attributes of her suit. The gun did not activate. It was obvious that so long as she cut beneath the keyboard her movements would go undetected.
thin air.
cagedmind0531
I?
forrestjones2010
thin air(period).
new sentence
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
The tool itself...her suit.
She removed the bottom from the keyboard and scanned for decay on the bottom
bottom used twice
cagedmind0531
fixed
forrestjones2010
nice work on testing the gun
very complex
love it
cagedmind0531
I considered having her make a mistake and the gun incinerating the ball
Might be something to rewrite a little bit.
forrestjones2010
Siren removed herself from the room and called for exodus.
very nice sentence sir
cagedmind0531
ty
forrestjones2010
she called down exodus
sweet
good scene man bravo
cagedmind0531
ty ty
forrestjones2010
you write the future just as adeptply as you write the past
cagedmind0531
Sometimes the future is easier because there is more stuff to describe
Or it feels that way anyway
forrestjones2010
true
cagedmind0531
All the devices and what not
forrestjones2010
i want you to read Jimmys chapter one of his novel
i know
cagedmind0531
I have no problem with that
forrestjones2010
you will die
cagedmind0531
why is that?
forrestjones2010
it is one of the prettiest things i have ever read
cagedmind0531
Maybe so but it's no Ind!
forrestjones2010
of course not
cagedmind0531

forrestjones2010
baufuoeee!
its in a totally different genre
cagedmind0531
cool beans
forrestjones2010
ty for being patient with my marital problems
cagedmind0531
It's cool man. I just hope things work out for the better...whatever that may mean
forrestjones2010
i am sorry they are occuring at this critical juctiutre in the book
bottom line Tish is jealous
she would never admit it but she always has been
of the time i speand with my art and writing
cagedmind0531
Beth gets jealous too, but I don't care. I realize that's selfish but if she made me choose there would be no choice.
forrestjones2010
she feels i give her the back seat to these
and maybe i do
and maybe thats not fair
i dont know
cagedmind0531
Yeah I totally understand
Women are very insecure
forrestjones2010
i was an artist before i was a husband and i am a selfish bastard most of the time
yup
anywho
cagedmind0531
Marriage doesn't define you as a person Forrest. Too many think that being a significant other means forgetting yourself. The truth is if you
forrestjones2010
i have to look at it like this...i am not a drunk
cagedmind0531
can't be yourself there is no relationship anyway.
forrestjones2010
i dont do drugs...anymore
i dont sleep around
i pay bills
i clean up ...sometimes
cagedmind0531
The problem is Forest
forrestjones2010
deal with the rest
cagedmind0531
The more you give
The more she'll want
Forrest*
forrestjones2010
rightly said sir
thats exacly it
there is never enough and its never good enough
and there is never a ty or an i am sorry
but anywho
i just wanted to ty
cagedmind0531
Well you need to decide if you can still be who you are and be married to her.
That's the question.
forrestjones2010
for understanding
i know
and i think i can
cagedmind0531
That means having to deal with her jealousy
forrestjones2010
i just need some distance and perpective riht now
right
cagedmind0531
Distance from the book? or her you mean?
forrestjones2010
her
cagedmind0531
I see
Do you think it's possible she is still punishing you for your indiscretion?
Or has she been like this since
or before
forrestjones2010
no i am going to,in balance, start taking my pc, to work and working on the book during the day when i can
so look for me more during the day online
cagedmind0531
I will
forrestjones2010
business has calmed down a bit for now
i can squirrel away a couple of good writing hours per day up there now
something i simply couldnt do last month
cagedmind0531
That's cool
forrestjones2010
so that alone should catapult the book forward by a month or so
cagedmind0531
Did you see what I said before? Is it possible she is punishing you for your indiscretion? Or was it like this before that?
forrestjones2010
dont think for an instant that i am not commited
cagedmind0531
I know you're committed
forrestjones2010
my indiscretion
?
cheating
cagedmind0531
yeah
forrestjones2010
oh without a doubt
cagedmind0531
That needs to stop
forrestjones2010
no joke
cagedmind0531
Any thing you did I am sure she has found ways to get back at you.
The balance has been met.
Marriage isn't about revenge
forrestjones2010
should be but aparently she has made it a zero sum game
if that were the case she would just go have an affair and be done with the getting even part
and who is to say she hasnt and this is a guilt manifestation who knows
its all a waste of energy
and the 2010 Forrest does not waste energy
cagedmind0531
She is a master of passive aggressiveness
forrestjones2010
he is Forge and builds things
cagedmind0531
I have never seen anyone better
forrestjones2010
she is indeed a jedi master...biatch
cagedmind0531
rofl
forrestjones2010
at least now i do know she has capacity to lie directly to me without cracking
cagedmind0531
That's scary
forrestjones2010
well...i can too so i guess we are even there...dont ever get married jason
cagedmind0531
Yeah that's what they tell me
Beth doesn't believe in it
I need to ask you something
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
Do you ever look for an out...as in even when you are happy you can foresee something in the future to get you out of this relationship?
Ever do that?
Like for me
It was kids. Beth didn't want kids.
So I had an out in the future
Now she thinks she might and I have no 'out' and it scares me
forrestjones2010
yes i have in the past but not with tish
cagedmind0531
I see
forrestjones2010
i basically put all my outs on the table in advance
my out was kids
my big one anyway
neither of us wanted any
and we have both stayed true to that one
anything else was fair game
never given it much thought past the kid thing
cagedmind0531
I see
Just curious
I didn't know if other people did it too
forrestjones2010
i think its common
but i have been off the dating path for 10 years now
cagedmind0531
Yeah that changes your perspective a bit
forrestjones2010
yeah
sometimes i think it would be fun to date then i am like helln bent no...gives me tha cave
cagedmind0531
lol
About the only good thing about the dating is sex. The rest of it sucks
forrestjones2010
pretty much
cagedmind0531
So you going to bed or wanna keep working?
forrestjones2010
i am up for now
cagedmind0531
k
Chapter 9 or just wanna bs?
forrestjones2010
where are we going with ch 9
i had a vision of AI last night
i say vision because i ws awake when i saw it
it was beautiful
cagedmind0531
Well the festival, the siren scene with them opening the vault, and Coral's death
that's cool
I want to edit what I wrote first with chapter 9 then I want you to take it and elaborate upon it if you can and possibly squeeze some dialogue
forrestjones2010
sure
i think that would do well to get me back into the swing of things
cagedmind0531
I think you'll like it though. I have 2 drugs in it and the after effects of the drug are what start the next day of the festival
forrestjones2010
sweety
cagedmind0531
You'll see what I mean
forrestjones2010
oops
sweet
lol
k
cagedmind0531
well gee thanks forrest
lol
forrestjones2010
didnt think youd let that slide unnoticed
cagedmind0531
lol
The reason Coral dies is not because her purpose faded but because her deathprint held something that was beyond her capability to tell.
So her purpose was to die and give the message
forrestjones2010
k
love it
have we decided on what it says
cagedmind0531
No I can't decide.
Thur?
forrestjones2010
yeah
thinking
cagedmind0531
Wanna edit 9 and see if that helps?
forrestjones2010
sure
cagedmind0531
It's continued on that same post you were on before
forrestjones2010
i didnt see it there
no i do
cagedmind0531
yeah gotta scroll down a little
forrestjones2010
i see it
cagedmind0531
If you start getting tired just go ahead and get some rest. We can work on this tomorrow
forrestjones2010
ok
i am up though
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
i was looking at some concert info
i am taking canan to a concert in dallas this w/e
cagedmind0531
Yeah I noticed you on myspace, the Flaming Lips
forrestjones2010
needed to get the scoop
k
cagedmind0531
with ya
forrestjones2010
love the opening
therian/Human history
she could let him finishspeaking and then add...they are to be called human now...or Our children are to be called human now
cagedmind0531
good idea
forrestjones2010
t is true they are new to the concept of generational deaths but they will endure, they will strengthen
they will strengthen as time begins to lay itself upon time
ide
idea
i have an idea
cagedmind0531
?
forrestjones2010
what if her death print serves several functions
for instance it commuicates something as intended
2nd
if taken back to her original cell it reveals a hidden chapter of the book of IND
3rd a potential weapon or entry point to a plane for Siren or iboga
4th a soul for AI
just ideas
cagedmind0531
What if it's a gateway through time
forrestjones2010
hmmmmm
cagedmind0531
To save Kalyx
And it's revealed at the appropriate time
forrestjones2010
where is she right now
cagedmind0531
She's about to speak
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
I figured ti appropriate for her to throw a dig at her absent father at the same time she is consoling Coral
forrestjones2010
can what ever her deathprint becaomes be shelved and contained by the EOTI until it can be studied and used later
?
cagedmind0531
Yeah we can do that. Syrka already has it stored secretly
You'll get to that though
forrestjones2010
cool ...i would really like to see it be versatile
cagedmind0531
I'm using Madame btw, I like the way it sounds
Better then Miss or Mrs.
Lame words
forrestjones2010
good call
madame leatherface
cagedmind0531
ha
Finish Coral's death yet?
forrestjones2010
reading now
it's message will serve more purpose then my life will.
life has.
?
cagedmind0531
?
forrestjones2010
than my life wil.
cagedmind0531
bah I do that all the time
forrestjones2010
should be than my life has.
i think it is a tense issue
nothing major
do i stop at her death?
cagedmind0531
No. But you can give an opinion right fast of it
forrestjones2010
its tight
cagedmind0531
Ok good.
forrestjones2010
i like it i cant see anything besides the tense thing
cagedmind0531
The whole, one person speaking their reservations at a time thing works?
forrestjones2010
i would like the print to be 3d
in this case it does only because she is dieing
death monolouging is ok
however you spell that
cagedmind0531
k good
forrestjones2010
read on through party?
cagedmind0531
aye
forrestjones2010
can print be 3d and versitile?
cagedmind0531
Yeah sure
forrestjones2010
i want to draw that slut i know what it looks like i can see it right now
cagedmind0531
cool
forrestjones2010
you ever see those conical incense burners made of polished brass?
bout an inch and a half tall
look like little shiny pyramids
cagedmind0531
yeah I think so
forrestjones2010
take 2 of those...just the tops...glue them together levetate and spin...instant Coral deathprint
cagedmind0531
That can all be added
forrestjones2010
right very minor final stuff/nerd copy
cagedmind0531
Nah it can be added when you tweak nine
forrestjones2010
oh ok cool
do you want so real names for some funk brew?
cagedmind0531
I don't know. Montum sounds kinda fun
forrestjones2010
it does...like momintum...fuck juice
we could put it in a can and sell it
cagedmind0531
Well the drug does things that normal drugs don't do
forrestjones2010
nice
cagedmind0531
It has an after effect as well as the initial effect which triggers the next day
forrestjones2010
indeed burned brighter, their lives taking on much more meaning due to the short span of their existence
lives take
cagedmind0531
Not sure if that sounds right
In the context of the entire sentence I mean
forrestjones2010
k
but all were required to participate in the day to honor Gaia.
i dont know if i would make it "required"
participation
this was an Iboga concept
i would imply everone just did
or wanted to
cagedmind0531
Yeah I can take that out. That's a good idea
So it was people injested the chemical, usually reluctantly but in the end all aquiesced to honor Gaia.
forrestjones2010
did you listen to that death march song before or after you wrote this piece?
that works
cagedmind0531
I listened to it before but honestly I couldn't understand the words. The melody was great though
forrestjones2010
i will have to dig up the words
i will insert them and tweak them to our will mwahahahahaha
cagedmind0531

So far it's better then the way I had it before?
forrestjones2010
tolls on the bodies systems.
bodiess'
i think
plural possesive
it is awesome...i was really into it
cagedmind0531
Ok cool. It's a bit different format then what we're used to
More descriptive less eventful
forrestjones2010
it has he feel of the scene from the matrix where they are in zion dancing to rave music and trinity and neo do it
it has that kind of energy
it is very impactful
cagedmind0531
Yeah I considered having Iboga arrive on the 3rd day when everyone was tripping on the haze effect
That would be pretty epic
forrestjones2010
we need to discuss the dead returning
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
in general
cagedmind0531
I don't want it
Generally
imo
forrestjones2010
who all is going to return
i dont either
cagedmind0531
I don't want people thinking, oh this person might come back
I want them thinking
This person is toast
forrestjones2010
dead is dead
cagedmind0531
Unless it's a bad guy
Then they shouldn't know
forrestjones2010
?
so iboga cant come back and neither can gaia
cagedmind0531
Well if a good guy dies he/she should be dead [usually]
forrestjones2010
only rumors and memories
cagedmind0531
But villains can sometimes
forrestjones2010
explain
f all dead hoes
am i caught up btw?
cagedmind0531
Well if a villain dies it adds to the mystery if you aren't certain they died
Yes you are caught up
forrestjones2010

cagedmind0531
So I think you can probably find some good ways to tweak both
The festival especially
forrestjones2010
k
i will
cagedmind0531
I am not sure it's possible to add dialogue to it
So are you not keen on Iboga returning?
I don't care if he does or not but he is fairly developed villain
forrestjones2010
its ok i just think it needs to be done carefully
i dont want it to come across like yugiohi or somethin dragon ball zish
i really didnt want to see Gaia again
she needs perpetual ascension
cagedmind0531
I didn't plan on seeing her again
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
I figured Graven would start dreaming of her maybe to tie it in a bit
forrestjones2010
dreams visions romurs any of that is all cool just "reality" isnt
i better try to sleep its 4
cagedmind0531
Ok man. See ya online tomorrow
forrestjones2010
good to get caught up...i will get to work today
cagedmind0531
ok sounds good
forrestjones2010
ok man thank again for listening
cagedmind0531
always!
forr