Convo from 1/27/2010

cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 8:59:00 PM): Home finally.
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 9:12:54 PM): What's kickin?
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 9:14:12 PM): Chillin with the fam for a bit...then about to get on the road to austin...
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 9:16:29 PM): Awe man why Austin?
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 9:27:08 PM): Luvs austin
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 9:46:23 PM): Did you ever see this Timeline I made? It's nuts
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 9:49:14 PM): Yeah I uploaded it lat night...its on the blog
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 9:51:43 PM): No that one. I had a more specific and elborate one in my notes.
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 9:52:22 PM): Sweet..post it...
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 9:57:21 PM): Remember "The Scalping" at all? It was where the earth had it's atmosphere burned off and people moved into the earth to live. Then that guy made a machine to catch comets and use them to remake the earth.
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 9:58:02 PM): I remember that vividly...love it
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 10:19:53 PM): I need you to think of some events that happen in creation with the maks. Things they might discuss. Things that may go wrong. Anything
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 10:20:18 PM): We need more material. As is we are using description to take up pages of writing. We need events. THings happening
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:20:25 PM): K
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:21:49 PM): Temporal disturbances...ghosts a shades in the background that should not be present...but faint & unable to be communicated with
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:22:05 PM): I agree
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 10:23:40 PM): Also something the masks would argue about.
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:24:06 PM): K
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 10:27:16 PM): I'm not happy with Chapter 1 or 2. I had my gf read it and said it's too much description and not enough substance and I agree. I have alot to fix.
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 10:31:01 PM): I realize alot of writers are very descriptive so it can work for us but it also needs to be accessible to more people, without being dumb down.
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:39:20 PM): And from their words rose the eschaton...the singularity that was to be prime mover of all things...each word laced into existence from the masks became a blood
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:39:32 PM): Line of its own...
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:39:47 PM): Anger morphed into war...
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:40:33 PM): The folded iris gave rise to the spinning galaxy..
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:41:12 PM): Care fore their new creations became love...desire...then obsession...
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:42:26 PM): The great war was inevitably woven into their passions & only now from this vantage point in time can we look back & speculate...
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:43:16 PM): (perhaps lace play with the timeline from a nonlinear vantage point)
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:43:41 PM): think spherically...
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:44:18 PM): Like the movie The Others were they were the ones haunting & not the haunted..
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:44:58 PM): I see a great war...
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:46:12 PM): I will think of actions...i think it is time to choose our hero...if you have some time youtube joseph campbell hero with 1000 faces...& power of myth...
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 10:47:08 PM): you there?
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:19:32 PM): what makes people fall in love with good literature are relationships and character interactions...so far the set up is phenaomenal...but it is what it is...4 masks basically in a vacuum...have you ever considered the description to open then jumping to a future scen then coming back in a later chapter for more description...my favorite books and movies are told in peices with lots of play with time...
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:25:35 PM): That's an interesting idea but I'm not sure how to impliment it
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:26:04 PM): the time flip
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:26:51 PM): we just ned a mechanism that lends itself to a movement in time...a literary device
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:27:05 PM): the key is not to make it cheesey
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:27:36 PM): or use something that is obliously connected to other work like a palanteer from LOTR
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:27:46 PM): hmm
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:28:58 PM): for instance
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:29:09 PM): Well I am not sure what element has the power or is aware of the creation of the universe
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:29:13 PM): That's the issue
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:29:49 PM): what i am using in the chrome is a place called the Akashic record...all it is...is a place to jump to other places in the story
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:29:49 PM): OH!
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:29:52 PM): I have an idea
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:30:38 PM): another example in purgatory is even simpler but it works for that...he ends every new chapter with..."and billy was X years old"
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:30:46 PM): Each god is the avatar of one of the masks, Zarathustra - Order, Gaia - Forge, AI - Entropy so...
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:31:08 PM): What if when the god sleeps it dreams about what that particular mask knows
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:31:46 PM): so any event is tied back to his age...keeps things flowing...and yes i am listening just had to get that out
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:31:59 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:32:05 PM): that could work
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:32:38 PM): For that to work the god would have to be unaware that it possesses the spirit of the masks
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:33:01 PM): And they would have to not be gods but more down to earth then that...
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:33:08 PM): Something powerful but not a god
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:33:34 PM): hmmm i shall ponder such things
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:33:56 PM): my friend got sick btw and we are not on the road...leaving in the morning
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:34:03 PM): Ah ok
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:34:13 PM): was wondering
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:34:34 PM): oh and also btw all the images i am posting are just background creative noise...they help me spark...
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:34:49 PM): we can use them or not use them...it matters not
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:34:50 PM): ok
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:35:11 PM): i like to post works in progress too
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:35:47 PM): what about fracture's point of view
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:35:50 PM): ?
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:36:04 PM): listening
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:36:35 PM): since he has no era perhaps...we could somehow incorporate some sort of observer status to him
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:36:38 PM): just a thought
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:36:43 PM): brainstorming
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:37:43 PM): it will come to one of us and when it does...this mechanism of story travel...it will be bad ass...
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:38:00 PM): I considered the idea that fracture could have been speaking to the crow creator before he was given life
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:39:07 PM): Your idea with Fracture would work but I kind of saw Fracture as a villain
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:39:23 PM): Always seeking to upset the balance kind of thing
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:39:53 PM): indeed i see him as a villian also a nasty little spike
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:40:06 PM): pukin on sunshine
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:40:11 PM): puking
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:40:22 PM): What if Fracture narrated the entire book
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:40:42 PM): possible
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:40:48 PM): brainstorming
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:40:57 PM): sure
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:41:20 PM): even so a literary mechisn is needed to push things backwards and forwards in time
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:41:42 PM): the vortex creates the universe that is trapped inside of the chains of time right?
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:42:14 PM): The vortex is basically the timeline. As everything is pulled through creation occurs
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:42:32 PM): pulled to it rather not through it
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:42:38 PM): what is outside of time?
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:42:42 PM): and creation?
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:43:20 PM): Not sure what is outside of time. I hadn't discussed it yet. And creation I mean all forms in the universe are created as the masks pass by
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:44:29 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:44:57 PM): think quantum leap...
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:45:11 PM): they could go anywhere and tell any story'
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:45:18 PM): the wardrobe
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:45:51 PM): it almost has to be a noun...person..place or thing...hellraiser box
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:46:00 PM): i like the box
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:46:13 PM): Ok an idea
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:46:18 PM): this would really mean that chapter one may be chapter 2
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:46:46 PM): and one may need to be character drivin with a flashback to creation and the masks
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:47:02 PM): I see what you mean
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:47:52 PM): i know i am just trying to jog myself...
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:48:30 PM): This is difficult. We're basically trying to find our spine [pun haha]
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:49:15 PM): spine?
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:49:40 PM): Spine as in the backbone of the book that everything falls back to as well as the spine of book [bookspine]
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:49:54 PM): :P
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:49:55 PM): dig
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:50:46 PM): btw feel free to delete any items from the blog
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:50:58 PM): some things were put there for laughs
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:51:09 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:52:34 PM): Ok random idea. Rune power and technology create a lifeform. It's an eye. This eye is passed down from generation
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:52:36 PM): to generation and houses the memory of the masks
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:52:57 PM): Yes an eye....as in people remove their eye and this one is put in it's place
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:53:11 PM): i like that
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:53:12 PM): totally random brainstorming
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:53:22 PM): this is leading in the right direction
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:54:03 PM): if it is an object then people would covet the object
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:54:09 PM): hence creating conflict
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:54:12 PM): hence war
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:54:16 PM): attachment
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:54:19 PM): Isn't that overdone?
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:54:31 PM): divisivness
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:54:35 PM): perhaps
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:55:02 PM): The eye of eternity. Holds the memory of the masks
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:55:04 PM): i have an idea
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:55:09 PM): shoot
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:55:29 PM): its a fictisious branc of science that i call anthiogenetics
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:55:47 PM): let me pull my notes for the general theme
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:56:27 PM): I think I've got it!
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:56:56 PM): Ok so when the 4 masks are released their chains are all kept in tact except fracture
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:57:09 PM): What if a small part of the chain landed on earth
forrestjones2010 (1/22/2010 11:57:36 PM): go on
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:58:22 PM): Not sure what shape it would take but this would hold all the memories of creation and this could be where the runes are discovered the are the
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:58:27 PM): building blocks of all things
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:59:41 PM): That would tie into that story I wrote before.
cagedmind0531 (1/22/2010 11:59:46 PM): About the rune guy
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:00:46 AM): i like that piece
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:01:10 AM): It has alot of good visuals in it at the very least
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:02:07 AM): true
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:03:10 AM): ok i found my notes on anthiogenes
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:03:29 AM): let me rattle for a second i will try to condesne it as much as possible
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:04:17 AM): it might seem incoherent at first because i am taking it out of context but bear with me a moment
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:04:23 AM): ok
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:04:26 AM): Integration:

The reasons I dont believe in magic or spells that pertain to the preemption of another's free will. I dont believe any being, even God himself, has the power to preempt free will in any form. This is the prime genator of why we are here.

forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:04:42 AM): Anthiogenetics is the key to total integration and what I mean be integration is the melding together of a multiplicity of fragmented ideas into a whole a composite back into a foundation that we have forgotten or repressed intentionally or otherwise.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:05:06 AM): Take art or writing as an example. I write stories in oft times tiny pieces and at other times in massive stroke but never from start to finish. I also believe myself to not be unique in this trait. I believe this to be part of the human condition. There a few that have these abilities on some level but lack them in other areas. Disintegrated in some parts of their psyche while integrated in others.

forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:05:45 AM): Time assists with integration but is not the sole cause. Anthiogens also aid as a catalyst to this integration but are again not the cuase but closer to an antedote to the situation than the technology of time alone. Make no mistake that time is a simple technology, a damned stubborn one, but a technology none the less. Anthiogenes are a cleaner more precise technology with clearer, faster end outcomes but no different from the end cause should one choose to employ only time.

forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:06:22 AM): Think of this in increments of lifetimes to shrink and gather your perspective. One generall has 70 or so years of natural life. Anthiogenesis allows for 70 years of time to be collapsed down to approximately 14 minutes thus allowing one to "experience"(i would rather use the word "live"d) a different incarnation of themselves every 14 minutes as opposed to every 70 years. Nothing in the normal knowledge acquisition or education would be lost in this process, only shrunk down like a hard drive compression and spread up. The math would be such: 70 years equals 36,792,000 minutes divided by 14 you have the ability to compress 2,628,000 of your life experience into one lifetime.

cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:07:05 AM): That's interesting
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:07:24 AM): Take as an example the act of reincarnation and apply it to Anthiogens the only tangible items we transport from one life to another are these Anthigens that are imprisoned inside of our pineal glands our tripple helixed DNA. It takes us near a lifetime to re-integrate them into the whole of our psyche. There is a faster way for this integration and the study of Antiogentics will lend the human condition to further, faster light.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:08:15 AM):
Anthiogeneisis: Is the dicipline that will run as a common thread to wed Science back to Religion after its long divorce. It will unite Hawking radition with string theory as well as Egyptology with Mystic Buddism. It is the Circulatory system that has been dying of lukemia that is about to be restored back to its place so that we will achieve and understand all parts of integration on all scales and levels.


forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:08:21 AM): and one last piece
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:08:57 AM): these can be shared at will between sentient beings like a hybrid between drugs and computer sofware
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:09:11 AM): and they have rules that go with them that govern them
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:09:53 AM): a character could find the lost Anthiogenes of the masks
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:10:18 AM): plug it into their system...observe and then begin to participate
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:10:25 AM): i'm done
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:11:03 AM): Memory being attached to DNA is really interesting
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:12:16 AM): i have never heard of it before anywhere...it came to me in a dream...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:12:26 AM): Cool
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:13:08 AM): it is attached to the pineal system...third eye (that ofcourse is not mine)
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:13:16 AM): i found some science to back it up
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:13:43 AM): there are some simple rules that go with it like...one has to consent
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:13:48 AM): they cant be hijacked
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:13:57 AM): commom social sex rules
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:14:10 AM): they are shared romantically
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:14:18 AM): or like commodities on markets
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:15:14 AM): We could start in the future and work backward using that method but I don't know.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:16:01 AM): its just an idea
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:16:35 AM): linear is fine but if you want action a time flip might have to occur
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:17:17 AM): I like the idea. Just thinking of how it would change into something I know nothing about. Writing about the future.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:17:45 AM): One question.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:18:05 AM): What's in it for someone who wants the memories of creation? Just knowledge? Some kind of power?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:22:39 AM): brb
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:22:41 AM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:27:08 AM): k
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:27:32 AM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:28:35 AM): ku klux klan
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:28:38 AM): :P
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:29:15 AM): thats the thing you never really write about the future
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:29:51 AM): everyplace you write about is taking place in the now...you just lace it together with whatever the mechanism is
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:30:00 AM): anywho...the question
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:30:51 AM): i would think knowlege...philisophical
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:31:17 AM): i would almost want to leave this vauge...it would be more reflexive of the current human condition
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:31:25 AM): some want it for power
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:31:28 AM): some for glory
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:31:37 AM): others for a way out
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:31:38 AM): Yeah I can see that
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:31:42 AM): ad infinatum
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:33:54 AM): It's going to be hard to call this a creation story if the creation part only takes place in the background
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:35:04 AM): great point
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:36:06 AM): An archeologist could find something and be telling the story or something...I don't know
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:37:13 AM): no need to force it...that part will come...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:37:15 AM): Have you read the bible?
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:37:34 AM): What makes Genesis so interesting?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:38:02 AM): yes...
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:38:20 AM): its characters and their blunders
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:38:25 AM): its fall
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:38:31 AM): hmm
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:38:33 AM): its banishment
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:38:37 AM): and betrayal
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:38:49 AM): by a God who is supposed to love his creation
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:38:57 AM): it is a great divorce story
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:39:15 AM): get the fuck out my garden and dont come back
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:39:46 AM): by the way here are 2 flaming angels with death swords that will cut ya if ya tries to come back
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:39:46 AM): What if the 4 masks are not released but rather plot their exodus
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:40:04 AM): the creator never knows they are alive
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:40:09 AM): and stay out...bitches
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:40:19 AM): lol
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:40:54 AM): hmmm
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:41:21 AM): brainstorming still I don't know
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:42:01 AM): I truly think we need a 'creation of the universe' chapter at the very least. Then we can use vessels to the story of life and it's history
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:42:21 AM): It can be a Prologue
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:43:01 AM): It needs some intrigue and betrayal
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:43:08 AM): The master betrayed by his creations
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:43:10 AM): kinda thing
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:45:18 AM): This is so difficult
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:45:55 AM): yeah we can let it go for a while...it will come...
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:46:08 AM): like a good women...when youre not even lookin
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:46:40 AM): I don't understand how people can write and write and write nonstop
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:48:24 AM): blessing and a curse
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:48:27 AM): as they say
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:48:53 AM): I feel like I could do it eventually. I just feel like there is a barrier I am working against
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:51:00 AM): I love the idea of Fracture creating life by trying to destroy it
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:51:05 AM): That part is good
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:51:42 AM): when i cant write i draw
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:52:10 AM): i find that it helps to have multiple projects because whn i am stumped on one i flow an another
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:52:21 AM): and yest the fracture part is good
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:52:36 AM): I want to train myself to stick to something and finish it
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:52:44 AM): I am HORRIBLE about not finishing projects
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:52:49 AM): do you agree that we need a mechanism to jump? because if you dont i can all be linear
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:53:17 AM): i finish most things i start these days...not so much in the past
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:53:24 AM): feels good to get em done
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:53:46 AM): if you get stumped i will pick up the writing
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:53:47 AM): I'm not sure. I really want the creation chapter to work. It's our backbone.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:54:03 AM): just let me know...and dont stress over it
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:54:12 AM): then lets work it
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:54:16 AM): Thanks man
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:54:32 AM): i m in it for the fun these days
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:54:49 AM): most of the asshole in me has died these days
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:55:00 AM): You were never an asshole to me
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:55:02 AM): if it aint fun i'm done
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:55:08 AM): i think i was
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:57:05 AM): I hope you think this stuff is fun because it's an important project to me.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:58:28 AM): it is amazing god fun
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:58:31 AM): good
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:58:35 AM): OH!
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:58:38 AM): I have an idea
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 12:59:03 AM): holograph
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:59:10 AM): What if instead of the masks story being told in a vacuum we have an old man telling the creation story to some kids
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 12:59:14 AM): or something like that
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:00:26 AM): that would bring it to life
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:00:38 AM): But then there are alot of questions to answer
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:00:52 AM): What era is the story? Who is telling it? How does he know?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:01:25 AM): sure but allot of that can be left open ended to the interpretation of the reader
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:04:57 AM): i can totally see an unrelated chapter open then close and be loosely hinged to the creation myth then in another chapter go full on into ...this is how we came to be...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:06:00 AM): hmm
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:06:18 AM): for instance
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:07:05 AM): siren i am tired of fighting in the god forsaken war...why the hell are we here anyway...she throws water on him slapps him around a bit and then goes into the masks
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:07:17 AM): silly example but it intoduces dialouge
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:07:30 AM): dynamism
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:08:57 AM): thinking
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:09:13 AM): galactic chakras
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:09:36 AM): btw stay away from anything remotely connected to 2012
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:09:45 AM): ha why is that?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:10:05 AM): it is getting way over done...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:10:14 AM): oh yeah obviously
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:10:39 AM): the closer it gets the more acute and asinine it will become...barney the dinosaur will be welcomed back
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:10:54 AM): :P
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:11:59 AM): you know on a very simple level that just came to me is that the story so far lacks nouns
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:12:07 AM): we have masks
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:12:14 AM): obolisk
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:12:17 AM): sp
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:12:39 AM): Yeah no doubt
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:12:54 AM): i dont know why i am just now realizing this
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:13:10 AM): i get caught up in the flow of it and it rocks
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:13:17 AM): i just forget about the nouns
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:13:20 AM): now i want nouns
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:13:25 AM): Me too
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:13:25 AM): anywho
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:13:50 AM): does anyone fall in love
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:13:57 AM): is anyone murdered
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:14:34 AM): does an egyptian pharoh get cloned and groomed to assassinane obama
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:14:49 AM): lol
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:15:30 AM): a thought
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:16:23 AM): if we meld the chrome and the ind we have 7 or so chapters...odds are while writing the whole it would be to large when completed and we could extract the creation at the end
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:16:40 AM): not as dificult as it may sound
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:16:56 AM): the other day i asked you about liniages
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:17:05 AM): who comes from whom
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:17:15 AM): Yeah
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:17:31 AM): if we know how they act the characters would virtually write themselves
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:17:36 AM): just rambling
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:17:53 AM): THe diagram tells you
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:18:11 AM): exactly
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:18:32 AM): i wrote the chrome to get back to the ind
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:18:44 AM): really? that's cool
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:18:58 AM): graven
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:19:22 AM): remember that name
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:19:26 AM): Yeah I do
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:19:28 AM): i think that was your idea
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:19:38 AM): Yeah I think that name was
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:19:50 AM): great name
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:20:41 AM): I think we should have a pirate on whom the shadow crow perches
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:21:22 AM): arrrggg
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:21:28 AM): It's wooden leg could be the timeline!
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:23:39 AM): Would it be blasphemous to put 'In the beginning' at the start of him telling the masks story?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:24:13 AM): no that is not balsphemous...its dmn funny though
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:24:18 AM): damn
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:25:10 AM): In the beginning the creator saw a the vast ocean of eternity, it's silver waters hypnotizing to the eye.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:25:19 AM): rambling
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:25:24 AM): visually what if the masks were raised high above like the big staues in lots on the river in 2
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:26:02 AM): far above but still visible from the ground and revered but not understood
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:26:17 AM): i have a tie in to the chrome
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:26:21 AM): That could be cool
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:27:05 AM): One thing I don't like is the masks talking...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:27:10 AM): I thought about it
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:27:12 AM): first off the chrome's main feature is to travel through time and space to find the greatest weapons ever created and used to bring back to the great war
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:27:15 AM): It takes away their mystique
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:28:04 AM): what if the masks and the knowledge of them was the greatest weapon and finally the war would be over...it would reach the ind
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:28:31 AM): in the ind you would finally know the beginning
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:28:55 AM): in essence with this perspective you have writting the last chapter first
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:29:11 AM): which would explain how backwards most true artist are
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:29:24 AM): thats a compliment and not a slam
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:29:26 AM): btw
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:29:39 AM): I like the idea but I am unfamiliar with all the work you did on the Chrome.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:29:48 AM): its just a thought
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:30:04 AM): and yes...no talking masks
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:30:10 AM): Glad you agree\
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:30:28 AM): It makes it seem like Clash of the Titans or something
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:32:52 AM): Coggin and Goethe walk into the night together their faces glowing from the clyreum from the secatia trees. The dark, moist-hot air of Disiderata did not possess a burdensome sentiment on this night; it was rather fluid and rejuvenating. The porcine burlesque trees swayed back and forth with the intent to partake in the city’s festivities. Goethe’s home is deep within the city in a catacomb type structure of modest first glance, it is a curvilinear imperfect dome type dwelling, very thick and green. There is a covering of large leaves that are sewn together in random fashion on top of several adjoining cylindrical cones to make a conglomerate shape that resembles the composite eye of an insect. The leaves that fashion the pieces together are garnered from the secatia trees that a
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:33:47 AM): I remember that before, that's from the festival stuff right?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:34:04 AM): ooh my i just found some of our really old notes and conversations
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:34:12 AM): i think so
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:34:41 AM): One thing I think you and I have a problem with
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:34:55 AM): yes
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:35:12 AM): Too much description and not enough movement. Description kinda makes things static if you aren't careful
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:35:23 AM): Know what I mean?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:35:27 AM): yes
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:35:53 AM): in my latest writings there is tons of action...
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:36:21 AM): the opening scen is a blast fuck shoot out with blood and death everywhere
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:36:31 AM): haha
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:36:52 AM): did you read chapter one of the chrome?
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:37:41 AM): I skimmed it but I haven't read it yet. I will do so either tonight or tomorrow.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:38:09 AM): I read a chapter that was posted or something all the way through
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:39:01 AM): Do you have a link to your most recent revision?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:39:33 AM): www.thechromenovel.com
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:39:46 AM): let me tell you this though
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:39:58 AM): ?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:40:25 AM): i dont want to merge the 2 for the sake of merging them...its just a thought...the ind is more than strong enough to stand on its own
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:40:36 AM): alrighty
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:41:36 AM): i just found a 250 page document of our conversations from 2004
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:41:40 AM): wow
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:41:45 AM): haha
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:42:40 AM): something i have learned while writing the chrome
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:44:43 AM): as soon as i found the mechanism for motion it literally writes itself
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:44:59 AM): Yeah I have a huge problem with static.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:45:03 AM): it became more like a collage that
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:45:39 AM): gave me permission to put in all or any of my incomplete projects into
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:45:51 AM): its the threading that is so fun
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:45:58 AM): anywho
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:46:27 AM): Seems like it would be. Sucks to have any kind of wasted work.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:46:58 AM): i think if we wait the device will pop up...until then descript away i love what you are doing
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:47:55 AM): Do you think writing so poetically as you do will hurt the ability to find an audience or help it? or is that not a thought?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:49:16 AM): it isnt a huge concern...but i have learned how turn it into narration...after you read the chrome tell me if you still think its all poetry...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:49:36 AM): I will. I try to be honest with you all the time.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:49:45 AM): i know
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:50:25 AM): One thing I have noticed is I think the Chrome is overused
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:50:30 AM): Need synonyms
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:50:34 AM): or something
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:52:16 AM): Chrome was used over 80 times in these pages.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:52:38 AM): sure...then again it may just be a place holder
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:52:46 AM): Yeah I figured as much
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:52:49 AM): gotcha
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:53:41 AM): Ok I have a project for you.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:54:18 AM): k
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:54:29 AM): Write chapter 1 in the same way only using moderate levels of description and from the viewpoint of an old man who knows exactly what happened
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:54:56 AM): We can add later when the old man is alive etc.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:55:03 AM): same way as what? the chrome
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:55:17 AM): No I didn't mean same way sorry. Let me reword that
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:56:04 AM): Write chapter 1 using what I wrote about the masks through the viewpoint of an old man, and how an old man would describe it to an audience
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:56:28 AM): Tough task I know but I don't know that I can do it.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:58:37 AM): before we force a rewrite lets give it a few days to see what other ideas stand out
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:58:48 AM): Ok sounds good
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 1:59:07 AM): i found your old RPG notes
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 1:59:20 AM): Yeah I really wish we could make that game
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:03:52 AM): This project is so ambitious. I mean normal people start off with something less obtuse
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:04:47 AM): normal is for suckers
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:05:12 AM): haha
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:05:39 AM): I wanna be rich. That way I can just create the rest of my life.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:05:43 AM): That would be nice.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:05:57 AM): hmm
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:08:23 AM): So I can't decide how to finish my painting now
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:09:09 AM): so close
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:10:36 AM): You see the new pics?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:11:00 AM): where are they fb?
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:11:08 AM): yeah
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:11:15 AM): where did the artifact come from?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:11:30 AM): what if the artifact was the mechanism
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:11:44 AM): he records it
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:11:54 AM): The artifact is the union of runic and technology
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:12:31 AM): purgatory one of its methods is a time traveling zombie
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:12:34 AM): super fun
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:12:55 AM): haha
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:14:10 AM): oh and check this his name is
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:14:15 AM): The Time Zombie
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:14:19 AM): lol
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:14:26 AM): original
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:15:04 AM): it is so simple and childlike in its creation that it is profound...simple...and badass all at the same time
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:17:50 AM): How long are you going to be in Austin?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:18:36 AM): if my friend isnt well by morning we may not go...but if we do i will be there unti l sunday night
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:19:21 AM): alrighty
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:22:42 AM): What do you do in Austin anyway?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:23:18 AM): i have friends there...we are really going to has out where we are on purgatory
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:23:36 AM): Cool
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:24:42 AM): its a bizzaro cool project...want to check out the writing?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:24:53 AM): The one I am working on is called
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:25:01 AM): I am Devil Bird
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:25:07 AM): sure
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:26:47 AM): sent to cagedmind0531@yahoo.com
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:28:09 AM): i am headed to bed homey...
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:28:20 AM): good brainstorming with you...like old times
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:28:27 AM): for sure
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 2:28:29 AM): alrighty man, keep safe this weekend
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:28:34 AM): u2
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 2:28:37 AM): f out
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 3:37:07 PM): How goes dude
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 4:48:13 PM): Just woke up...lazy day...austin was cancelled...my friend got to my house a was sick...bad sick with ffo poisoning...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 4:48:39 PM): Dude do you have a sec? I wrote something and need an opinion
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 4:49:27 PM): Yes
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 4:49:37 PM): Posting to the site
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 4:50:01 PM): K...will get on now
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 4:54:01 PM): thats badass ..By the hells it burns!...me likes...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 4:54:40 PM): So I'm thinking this is how the shard is found and ultimately he will be an old man who slams the shard into his sons eye, and so on etc.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 4:55:48 PM): this is very unique...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 4:55:54 PM): In a good way?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 4:56:30 PM): yes in a good way...its like an indian lore story
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 4:56:54 PM): lone wolf dancing flame eye speaks
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 4:57:00 PM): Ok I can write the events and so on but I am going to need you to go back and add dialogue because it's not something I am good at.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 4:57:19 PM): consider it done
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 4:57:57 PM): So you think this can be the vessel we were talking about? I definitely feel a movement forward now.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 4:58:14 PM): if you can just put (add dialouge here) in the text i will go back and do it like you have done with the visuals
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 4:58:29 PM): Sounds good
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 4:59:04 PM): so the shard makes him a seer or what is it going to do to him
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 4:59:38 PM): It's going to grant him visions. By the way he is a rune being...which is going to have to be worked out somehow.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 5:00:17 PM): Maybe the eye can grant him the power to see the runes in everything
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 5:00:53 PM): thats fine and yes if he holds the vision than he can narrate...thats it forward motion...
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 5:02:47 PM): i gotta run for a bit...wil be back on later
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 5:02:52 PM): alrighty man
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 5:03:26 PM): peace
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 5:03:39 PM): Message me when you get back on
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 5:03:45 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 6:59:38 PM): Phatom Gaia
Xerxes Box
Four dark masks
Chained to rock
Crow flies by
Shard comes from sky
Graven full of prophet doom
Runes advance
tribes no longer bow to moon
Siren embedded far in time distant
Phantom Gaia
Xerxes Box

The IND
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:00:10 PM): Interesting..I like it.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:02:38 PM): just dooding
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:02:45 PM): You back?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:02:49 PM): yup
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:05:29 PM): I'm real excited about this new idea but I don't know how to mark him as an ether being and not human. At what point do I make that aparent.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:05:34 PM): apparent*
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:05:55 PM): At one point he sees his reflection. I was thinking that might work
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:05:59 PM): keep in vague for now
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:06:07 PM): perfect
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:06:26 PM): Let me post what I have. I wrote some more. Has a bit of dialogue
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:06:37 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:07:11 PM): Posted
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:16:09 PM): looks like we have our vector and one hell of an opening...the seer works great for movement...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:16:50 PM): I think we could make Graven the last manaform[runic guy] before Gaia
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:18:45 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:19:22 PM): the flame from the sky lends itself to a story told in the future about the past too...like a legend
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:19:39 PM): lots of versitility with visuals and narrative
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:20:32 PM): I can see how it can evolve from here but how do we tell about the history of the runic guys when that's the era where the story takes place
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:23:09 PM): Graven could be a biology teacher :p
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:23:26 PM): we can switch vectors when the time comes...another event can lead to another having insight into another area...not the same insights as Graven but enough to tell things about the runic from a third party...
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:23:36 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:25:11 PM): Graven can be around for a long time because if the ether guys live till they have no purpose...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:25:22 PM): Graven will have a purpose for a long time if he has the shard
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:25:41 PM): sweet...and the shard..is that Fracture?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:25:48 PM): a peice of Fracture
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:25:54 PM): It's a part of the chain that held fracture
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:25:58 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:26:10 PM): molten mercury...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:26:22 PM): But because it's part of what the creator made, it has alot of his memories as well
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:26:50 PM): morphic resonance...dig
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:27:01 PM): resonance, I like that word
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:28:45 PM): youtube rupert sheldrake...he talks about things and events having memory...he coined morphic resonance
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:28:49 PM): neat guy
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:29:53 PM): So at some point graven will start seeing the runes inherent in all things and then I will incorporate and splice the story I wrote about him
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:30:48 PM): nice work Jason
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:31:10 PM): Thanks. Been wracking my brain past few days. I was kind of upset. Lost direction
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:32:32 PM): "They walk next to the silent Soliton in someway creating as their creator himself also creates in some sort of mimicry shadow dance. "
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:32:46 PM): That is really perfect for the book
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:33:04 PM): use it
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:33:30 PM): You write in so many metaphors man. It's so beautiful but it's kind of hard to follow
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:35:42 PM): yeah that was a poem...i can write straight to
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:35:44 PM): too
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:35:48 PM): :)
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:36:03 PM): Oh I didn't realize it was supposed to be a poem. I thought it was a narrative.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:36:08 PM): That makes alot more sense
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:36:46 PM): You are a crazy good poet. Where the hell you get these images you describe I will never know
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:36:52 PM): one way i write is in poem format...then i come back and flesh out whatever story i am working on
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:37:08 PM): the metaphors for me are like a common denominator in math
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:37:29 PM): i come back and do the long formula when i am ready for that particular piece
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:37:36 PM): I see
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:37:42 PM): thanks
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:38:33 PM): I will be busy the next two days or so. You interested in doing some writing?
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:38:59 PM): yes
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:39:55 PM): So those initial two pages need to be continued and I don't want it as poetic as we made the masks story. I want it tangible.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:40:16 PM): We need a clear story that uses the masks as poetic interlude
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:41:22 PM): It needs to be about Graven starting to see runes and when he dreams randomly go to chapter 1 about the masks and splice what is appropriate.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:41:41 PM): ok
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:42:21 PM): I'd like to use alot of Chapter one but honestly that was yesterday and I understand alot of it is now hash work that was done to get to this
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:42:22 PM): point
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:43:43 PM): hash work?
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:44:04 PM): Work done in the past to build up to where we are now
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:44:10 PM): Hashing things out so to speak
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:44:38 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:45:30 PM): I'm excited. This is the closest we have come to being accessible to the average reader.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:45:41 PM): As far as the Ind is concerned
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:46:10 PM): by the time we are through it will be condesnsed and completely accessible
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:46:27 PM): i am done with being intentionally vauge
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:46:40 PM): i am glad you bring out the accessable part
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:47:24 PM): I think this is why we work well together.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:47:52 PM): indeed
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:48:48 PM): lol I looked up the word 'hash' to make sure I was using it write and this is a sentence for one of the definitions
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:48:56 PM): Her blunt reply really settled my hash.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:48:57 PM): rofl
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:49:08 PM): right*
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:50:04 PM): Those silly dictionary people
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:51:13 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:51:23 PM): burn em at tha stake
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:51:53 PM): what do you think about when you hear the word order?
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:52:05 PM): hmmm
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:53:04 PM): I don't know really. I think of like the Freemasons or Templars...you know like an order
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:53:12 PM): But that's not the definition we are working with
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:53:50 PM): oooh!
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:53:54 PM): a command of a court or judge.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:53:58 PM): a judge...hmmm
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:54:11 PM): looking at the definitions
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:55:07 PM): Order is probably the hardest one in my opinion
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:55:19 PM): To draw
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:56:31 PM): i am drawing it now
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:56:33 PM): :)
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:56:41 PM): What do you have in mind?
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:57:25 PM): organized is one meaning
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:58:02 PM): soi have the face drawn in a half mask from a frontal view but i have not decorated the mask
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:58:02 PM): control, rightness, uprightness
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:58:21 PM): Cool
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:58:32 PM): Eventually we will need a front view of all the masks
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:58:36 PM): i am using joseph stalin as my model
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:58:39 PM): For the paintings I will do
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:58:43 PM): early 20's stalin
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:58:49 PM): haha
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 7:58:57 PM): right
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 7:59:38 PM): I can 'try' to take your drawings and do a frontal view but it's gonna be tough from a profile.I can certainly try though.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:01:37 PM): OOOH! I found a good mask template
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:01:39 PM): keep this in mind...we dont need to try to match styles on the art... i think the writing need cohesion but go nuts with the art...make whatever the hell you feel like and we will put it in somewhere...when we try to make things a certain way...i get stifled
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:02:00 PM): That sounds great
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:02:09 PM): the first mask was a bit of an anolmoly
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:02:12 PM): sp
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:02:25 PM): i had no idea it was going to come out that way
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:02:33 PM): http://www.nfvproducts.com/images/SiLucia/Full%20%20Face%20Mardi%20Gras.jpg
Start Photo Sharing
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:02:40 PM): i can not with sanity match that with everything i do
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:02:57 PM): I understand
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:03:06 PM): i think that is why i havent drawn much since that one...actually i have it just doesnt compare
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:03:56 PM): sweet...i have a ton of those masks i am using
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:04:19 PM): google image gil bruvel
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:04:42 PM): Cool
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:07:27 PM): oh wow...i think I found a possible order i have already created...
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:07:33 PM): will post in a sec
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:07:35 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:08:57 PM): i made this for purgatory but decided not to use it there...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:09:07 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:09:16 PM): posted
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:09:26 PM): I see it. It's real fuzzy
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:10:02 PM): keep in mind we will need many and various images
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:10:09 PM): True
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:10:23 PM): i dont believe this is THE order or it could be another bur an order
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:11:18 PM): i will leave it in the bank as a potential for down the road...btw if you are ever reviewing the temp blog...delete whatever is distracting or doesnt need to be there
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:11:58 PM): i will just throw things on it from time to time when i am thinking about the ind
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:12:25 PM): but i am not attached to any theng on the temp blog...i am only concerned with talking about the permanent blog
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:13:17 PM): Alrighty. I just keep everything up there in case I need some inspiration
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:13:28 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:17:17 PM): btw I finally figured out how to finish my painting thanks to you
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:17:31 PM): What you said about keeping more then 1 project going.
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:17:44 PM): I got stumped so I started writing then it hit me how to finish the painting
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:18:10 PM): cool...
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:19:57 PM): I think using the moon for entropy and the sun for order will work great
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:20:03 PM): just an idea
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:21:07 PM): For the decorations on each
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:21:54 PM): hmmm
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:22:33 PM): or just shapes in general
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:23:46 PM): i am getting somewhere with order...will post what i have
cagedmind0531 (1/23/2010 8:32:37 PM): Gotta go for now. Keep safe dude.
forrestjones2010 (1/23/2010 8:33:00 PM): k..nite
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 12:19:16 AM): yahoo erased our last conversation...do you know how to retrieve history?
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 12:19:30 AM): if not message me with what you wanted me to write
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 12:19:36 AM): catch you later
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 12:42:08 AM): So those initial two pages need to be continued and I don't want it as poetic as we made the masks story. I want it tangible
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 12:42:29 AM): We need a clear story that uses the masks as poetic interlude
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 12:42:31 AM): It needs to be about Graven starting to see runes and when he dreams randomly go to chapter 1 about the masks and splice what is appropriate.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 12:42:47 AM): Thanks
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 12:42:50 AM): Np bob
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 12:45:45 AM): Got it...if you are able will you post our last whole connversation to blogn
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 12:49:41 AM): I'll post it tomorrow good sir. Going to bed for now. Not sure how to copy it all, I'll have to tinker with it.
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 12:50:49 AM): Wait nvm I figured it out. It's posted
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 12:17:34 PM): Thanks...
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 3:52:34 PM): Good morning/afternoon sir
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:53:08 PM): hey man
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:53:14 PM): i am writing on the story
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 3:53:18 PM): Cool beans
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:53:55 PM): i have Tearan and Corrin making a stretcher to take Grave to Iboga, the medicine man near the fringe of the village
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 3:54:40 PM): Stretcher huh...need to write that's he's too dizzy to walk or something then
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 3:54:56 PM): Then again he does keep passing out
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:54:58 PM): got it covered
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 3:55:02 PM): Cool
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:55:15 PM): After this near collapse into the river Taeran calls back to the other men for help to carry Graven to Iboga, the medicine man, of the village. It is night and the medicine man resides just outside the perimeter of the village where he plies his wares as magician and judge to the tribe. Corrin take Mach and get a stretcher and supplies for the trek to Iboga's; and Corrin, he pauses for a moment, get my bow. Taeran, what do you need the bow for? There is no time to explain just grab the bow.

forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:55:34 PM): A stretcher is made from the discarded limbs of the forest strong and secure to carry Graven from the center of the village to the medicine man's domain in the event that he is unconsious the whole way. Twenty minutes go by and the crew is now ready to depart for the journey.

cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 3:55:49 PM): Cool. So far I like
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:55:54 PM): :)
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:56:10 PM): i just started so thats all i gots
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 3:56:18 PM): Do you remember how I described runic beings/plants?
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:56:32 PM): be thinking about what Graven wants...his deep motivations and desires
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:56:48 PM): refresh me if you have time
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 3:57:57 PM): Basically they have tough skin and are covered with veins of like a red lava. They die when their purpose fades. THey could have 3 fingers
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 3:58:03 PM): Not sure about that though
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:58:09 PM): btw all the new names i make up are jus place holders
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 3:58:21 PM): Oh they seem good so far.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:58:32 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:58:46 PM): something strange
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:59:25 PM): ch 2 of the chrome the main character has his eyes burned out and gets enhanced vision...
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:59:30 PM): no joke...
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 3:59:37 PM): ha, that's crazy
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 3:59:54 PM): I read that by the way but I didn't quite follow it all.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 3:59:57 PM): i go into 3 paragraphs or so how an operation has to be performed
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:00:13 PM): Yeah I remember that
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:00:45 PM): you read that? where i havent posted chapter 2 yet
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:01:07 PM): Oh I meant chapter 1. There was something about chrome being poored over someone
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:01:29 PM): I figured that was what you meant.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:01:42 PM): no bother i thought that was just wicked strange
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:02:30 PM): Isn't chrome poored onto someone in chapter 1? or did I totally misread that
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:03:48 PM): i would have to reread to say for sure...its kind of a long ch
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:04:08 PM): oh well if even you don't know then I don't feel so bad lol
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:05:29 PM): Did you get a study of Order drawn?
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:05:37 PM): the med. man can be used to explain how his body works
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:05:46 PM): oooh good call
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:06:04 PM): i posted a few sketches of various things
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:06:19 PM): Maybe they think his purpose is fading...but in reality he is being swarmed with it
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:06:25 PM): none of them have soul so i am still searching
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:06:37 PM): i love the word swarm
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:07:05 PM): Down the line the 'ether' that is his blood turns blue instead of red.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:08:03 PM): and the others stay red?
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:08:13 PM): yes for now
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:08:18 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:08:22 PM): It goes from red to purple to blue
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:08:51 PM): does it change color as they loose their purpose?
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:09:05 PM): No. It just starts to fade
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:09:09 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:09:31 PM): Maybe they see blue flecs in it when they examine him
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:10:53 PM): I'm not sure what level of tech they should have, I haven't thought about it.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:11:51 PM): i am thinking amazonian shaman plants for medicines sticks bows axes
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:11:57 PM): no guns
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:12:30 PM): Maybe describing some makeshift microscope would be ok...not sure
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:13:06 PM): I have some ideas for order btw. Working on a sketch in my spare time while beth is here.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:15:33 PM): i have to step out for a bit...be back on later
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 4:17:03 PM): Me too, later good sir
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 4:17:32 PM): K
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 6:41:39 PM): Hey homey what's kickin?
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:01:36 PM): additions made...light edit complete on shard 2...
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:02:14 PM): shard 2?
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:06:21 PM): The Fracture Shard 2
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:08:21 PM): You mean chapter 2? or you mean too as in 'also'
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:13:38 PM): the title of the post is The Fracture Shard 2
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:14:23 PM): oh ok
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:16:58 PM): It's going really well so far. I really like it. What's the bow for?
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:18:30 PM): just in case Graven goes mad and gets violent...self protection or perhaps forshadowin to some jealousy of his power
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:20:10 PM): Interesting
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:21:51 PM): its just a what if to get the reader to think...and we may or may not use it
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:23:11 PM): Good idea. I like it
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:25:17 PM): so this achieves a tangible direction?
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:26:16 PM): I think so. It certainly seems ALOT more accessible then before.
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:29:27 PM): What's your opinion?
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:29:44 PM): i am rolling with it
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:30:23 PM): alot can come out from the wise medicine man perspective and it can still be a bit cyptic
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:30:49 PM): Yeah I for sure think that's a good idea.
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:34:36 PM): I think I have Order mask down pat
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:35:12 PM): nice...did you post it?
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:35:37 PM): No I just have it visualized and I'm working on it now
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:35:43 PM): cool
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:35:54 PM): Lots of geometry
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:36:08 PM): you are good at that..
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:45:12 PM): question
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:45:30 PM): shoot
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:45:37 PM): what chapter does "fracture shard 2" go in?
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:45:42 PM): 1
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:45:52 PM): is it the opening?
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:46:05 PM): We may do a prologue
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:46:09 PM): But yes basically
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:46:28 PM): k...just wanted to make sure
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:47:23 PM): The medicine man examining him is a good point to have a picture drawn of ether being biology
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:47:55 PM): dig
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:52:21 PM): did you see my crow?
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:52:35 PM): Let me go check it out
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:53:34 PM): I saw it. It's hella cute
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:53:57 PM): Why does it have a chain? The crow doesn't have a chain
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:53:58 PM): hella cute huh?
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:54:10 PM): it was a study
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:54:29 PM): The face looks good but I think the body feels a bit small
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:54:35 PM): like a 2 minute drawing
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:54:38 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:54:48 PM): i wasnt happy with it
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:54:59 PM): there will be more birds im my future
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:55:12 PM): I think it would look good in charcoal honestly because it's a 'crow of shadows'
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:55:27 PM): i can do charcoal
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:55:37 PM): You do charcoal very well
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:55:46 PM): black paint and white paint on top
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:55:50 PM): thanks
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:55:56 PM): that would work too
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 7:56:41 PM): Do you think it should be a crow or a raven?
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 7:59:03 PM): either works...raven alludes to poe and i love poe
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:00:07 PM): This mask is looking too much like voltron!
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:00:08 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:00:38 PM): or a transformer
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 8:03:08 PM): i created a MASTER copy on the temp blog to work from so we dont get all scattered with where everything is...does that work for you?
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:03:50 PM): whatever helps you is fine. What are you up to right now anyway?
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 8:04:54 PM): hangin with Tish
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:06:39 PM): This mask stuff is alot more work then I thought it would be. You set the bar really high
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 8:07:11 PM): dont worry about that first mask...just do your thing...we will work it all in
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:07:50 PM): I have a couple or rough sketches let me send them
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 8:07:58 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:08:09 PM): brb gotta scan
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:18:43 PM): It scanned kinda small but it's posted
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:19:11 PM): Our scanner sucks
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:19:21 PM): Not to mention I don't really know how to work it
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 8:21:37 PM): gotcha...i cant see it well but what i do see is looking good
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:21:51 PM): I reposted it bigger
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 8:22:24 PM): rock
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:22:32 PM): I don't like the face texture but using the sun in the center looks good.
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:22:52 PM): Maybe you can incorporate that somehow. If not no biggie. I'll work on it too
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 8:23:07 PM): indeed
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 8:23:31 PM): we are going to step out for a bit...catch ya later
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:23:36 PM): ok man, laters
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 8:29:59 PM): Google steampunk masks
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:31:37 PM): ok
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:31:57 PM): ha that's wild
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 8:59:10 PM): Let me know when you are available
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 8:59:57 PM): I am here on my cell what's up?
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 9:00:34 PM): Just wanted to chat. Beth is watching some shows she likes so I'm pretty bored.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 9:01:27 PM): gotcha...i am drawing masks at barnes and noble
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 9:01:55 PM): Cool
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 9:03:08 PM): Oh nvm she is finally read to watch movies. Talk to you later good sir.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 9:03:46 PM): K
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 10:26:19 PM): Hey what's kickin sir?
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 10:37:03 PM): Drawing at home now
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 10:37:35 PM): Cool, got any pics?
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 10:38:09 PM): I have a bad ass one I will finish soon
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 10:38:30 PM): cool
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:03:39 PM): What is the drawing of?
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:04:10 PM): Bird perched on obalisk
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:04:32 PM): Cool beans
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:05:17 PM): I tweeked the obalisk and stylized the bird
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:05:27 PM): Interesting
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:06:29 PM): You want to see it before I ink itn
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:06:35 PM): Sure
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:09:14 PM): Are you done writing for now or do you want to work on it a bit before I take back over?
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:09:27 PM): There's no big rush
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:09:48 PM): You can take over whenever you like
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:10:08 PM): Just post what you have after each session so I know where to pick up.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:10:11 PM): I can pick it up and put it down right now
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:10:30 PM): Well I like where you are going so far so keep it going for a bit.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:10:56 PM): I am having lots of sucess with the visual side right now so I want to stay in this vein for a while
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:11:12 PM): Ok I will post it on the master...
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:11:14 PM): Oh ok that works. I'll start writing some more tomorrow
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:13:27 PM): Ok I will write more tonight...
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:14:34 PM): Sounds good. I am really liking the amount of work we are churning out.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:15:53 PM): Me too...i am doing billy stuff too...they are working together easier than I thought
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:19:29 PM): Yeah I was wondering when you were having time for that. I can't imagine how much work you are gonna get done when you finish that haha
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:20:17 PM): :-D
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:20:55 PM): This stuff is what I look forward to every day. I love the process.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:28:53 PM): Me too...i am having a blast
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:48:41 PM): The Order mask is evolving now but I really want it to have the level of detail yours does
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:49:21 PM): posting half inked obalisk and bird
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:50:40 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:55:33 PM): posted
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:55:41 PM): the obalisk can spin
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:57:48 PM): I see you took the diagram and used it
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:57:50 PM): I like that
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:58:04 PM): i thought it fit
cagedmind0531 (1/24/2010 11:58:36 PM): Very abstract and dark. I like it.
forrestjones2010 (1/24/2010 11:59:39 PM): i will post again after complete inking
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 12:00:34 AM): Can you make the obelisk curve like the diagram?
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 12:01:25 AM): If not it's cool. It looks great
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 12:01:42 AM): i think so
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 12:01:59 AM): Also if you haven't inked it erase that line
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 12:02:12 AM): The horizontal one.
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 12:02:27 AM): It looks great regardless though
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 12:02:41 AM): that one is inked
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 12:02:53 AM): No worries
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 12:03:09 AM): I gotta go good sir. Talk to you tomorrow
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 12:04:51 AM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 12:04:53 AM): nite
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 12:49:50 AM): Inked & posted
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 4:08:59 PM): Good afternoon good sir
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 4:11:16 PM): What up?
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 4:15:24 PM): Not much. Beth just went home so now it's back to work for me. :D
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 4:18:03 PM): Beth sounds cool...how long yall been together
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 4:20:27 PM): Getting close to 2 years
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 4:21:15 PM): Wow...what does she think about what we are working on?
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 4:22:34 PM): She is excited for me
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 4:24:25 PM): Did you see the final ink of the obelisk bird...i have an idea for it in photoshop...
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 4:24:39 PM): Yeah it looks great. What's your idea?
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 4:27:07 PM): Put a full moon behind the obelisk & receding reflexion from the ocean below it...
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 4:28:59 PM): A moon isn't really mentioned but maybe we can work something out.
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 4:34:37 PM): Hmmm...
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 4:34:58 PM): I can nix the moon
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 4:42:39 PM): Work on the Order mask is coming along well
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 4:43:16 PM): Sweet
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 5:21:38 PM): Go to my facebook. New Order image posted
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 5:23:15 PM): There?
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 5:24:44 PM): Yeah...dont have computer right now
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 5:24:51 PM): oh ok
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 5:24:58 PM): Will look at tonight
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 5:26:53 PM): Hold on I might be able to see it from my phone
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 5:26:59 PM): Cool
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 5:33:38 PM): Looking good...i was able to see it...
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 5:34:42 PM): cool
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 6:29:37 PM): When are you gonna be home good sir?
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 6:31:59 PM): We have boyscouts on monday nights so usually between 8 & 9
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 6:36:15 PM): ah ok. Did you do any more writing or can I pick up from the post?
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 6:38:17 PM): Pick up from post...i just drew last night...
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 6:39:51 PM): Alrighty
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 7:04:15 PM): Order is done
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 7:18:42 PM): Dig
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 7:38:07 PM): Fate will not control us...we will be victorious...
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 7:59:30 PM): Order is looking pretty hot
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 8:02:14 PM): Can't wait to meet her/him...
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 8:09:50 PM): I posted it on the blog and on facebook
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 8:12:11 PM): I love it more than puppies a skittles
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 8:12:51 PM): You see the final one?It's big and it has a large part added at the top of the mask
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 8:14:28 PM): I see the one on fb only...
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 8:15:57 PM): There should be 2 more added to facebook now.
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 8:18:02 PM): Guess I can't see the new ones from my fone...will look in a bit when I get home...
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 8:19:06 PM): alrighty
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 9:16:05 PM): How was work?
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 9:24:44 PM): Grueling
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 9:25:38 PM): Sorry to hear that
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 9:33:06 PM): New pics of my painting up too
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 9:49:56 PM): Bazinga!
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 9:50:06 PM): lol bazinga?
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:03:34 PM): magnificent mask sir what are the dimensions it looks big?
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:04:01 PM): It's the size of yours on paper. Not sure why it scans that big.
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:04:34 PM): i see
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:04:39 PM): it rocks
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:04:53 PM): it makes me want to slap jimmy hoffa
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:05:07 PM): Yeah I really want the level of detail and effort you put forth in the first mask, on all of them.
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:05:32 PM): i love it just the same
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:05:41 PM): The next 2 masks need to be facing right
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:05:54 PM): That way we can use them as a border around the cover and some of the pages.
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:07:08 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:07:21 PM): or they can be inverted if we forget
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:07:35 PM): Beth says the new writing is MUCH better.
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:07:49 PM): since we have some action
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:07:50 PM): ?
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:08:05 PM): Yeah
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:08:34 PM): good to hear...as soon as we have a complete chapter 1 i have about 10 people lined up to critique it
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:08:52 PM): I am going back into the writing a bit and writing in physical descriptions of each mask as we draw them.
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:09:12 PM): whatever flips your canolie
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:09:33 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:17:40 PM): i have canan over tonight so i may not get much done with the book
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:18:04 PM): Ah bummer. No worries
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:20:28 PM): You were right about needing a vessel from which the book progresses. This is much easier to write.
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:20:49 PM): good
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:25:48 PM): gotta run...i will be on a little later
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:26:16 PM): alrighty
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:32:09 PM): Bainga!...sheldon from the big bang theory says this...i love that show
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:32:32 PM): lol ok...
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:32:55 PM): I sabotaged your trek to the medicine man. A bear beast attacks them.
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 10:34:05 PM): Sweet...never bring a knife to a gun fight...
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:34:19 PM): lol
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:38:36 PM): Suddenly he felt swatting at his foot, and the pointed edge of some tooth or claw hoping to prod him into exodus so to run him down.
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 10:59:20 PM): I wrote over a page
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 11:22:12 PM): Almost 2 pages now.
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 11:47:13 PM): Nice...i may be on later
cagedmind0531 (1/25/2010 11:47:26 PM): Almost 3 pages now.
forrestjones2010 (1/25/2010 11:48:31 PM): Wow...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 12:16:19 AM): 4 pages
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 12:39:49 AM): How long till you are free? I need an opinion
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 1:02:57 AM): 5 pages
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 2:38:19 AM): awake?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:25:27 AM): Fell asleep...this med knocks me out
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:25:36 AM): U awaken
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:25:49 AM): Oops you awake?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:33:08 AM): I'm awake
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:33:17 AM): Still there?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:33:56 AM): Yeah
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:34:45 AM): Go to the site. I posted the newest revision. It's almost 9 pages. I also posted my FINISHED! painting on facebook.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:35:16 AM): Nice...getting online now
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:37:30 AM): Yeah man I had like this creative burst and I finished my painting and wrote like a ton
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:37:52 AM): i'm telling you its in the air
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:38:11 AM): its been nonstop since october
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:38:52 AM): I normally don't get like this but I really think I got some quality writing in today
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:39:33 AM): thats awesome
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:39:54 AM): If you feel like reading it's the most recent post
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:40:21 AM): i am now
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:40:25 AM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:42:48 AM): wow this is beautiful
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:43:51 AM): Yeah I'm psyched. Some good stuff
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:44:49 AM): brb
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:45:11 AM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:48:49 AM): he once more feints to blackness.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:48:54 AM): yes!
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:49:02 AM): back
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:49:14 AM): yes to what?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:49:52 AM): he once more feins to blackness
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:50:20 AM): put this somewhere..."I love you but I chose the darkness"
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:50:36 AM): alrighty
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:50:47 AM): later somewhere
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:53:04 AM): Aidan got whacked?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:53:10 AM): lol yeah
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:53:24 AM): hell yes
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:53:30 AM): We can revive the name but whoever that character is, is dead
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:53:43 AM): good literature lways kills its darlings
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:53:53 AM): always
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:54:24 AM): Dhastrum...great name
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:54:35 AM): yeah, was kinda random
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:56:59 AM): iboga is an actual diety of the amazonian basin...she lives in the vines of banesteriopsis caapi, the scientific name of Iboga which when ingested in a tea mixed with a "necroptic substance" called Chacruna induces visions that save the world...the bitwiti tribe i believe...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:57:20 AM): interesting
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:57:47 AM): use the ter necroptic substance somewhere...or i will love that tern
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 3:58:10 AM): iboga is used by shamans
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 3:58:17 AM): I see
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:00:08 AM): you are aware of the archetypal blind seer?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:00:15 AM): Yeah
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:00:35 AM): k thought so...shakespeare had tiberius?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:00:45 AM): Yeah I believe so
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:01:12 AM): No, no, no young one, it did not take from you, but has given thee."
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:01:30 AM): Yeah that's probably my favorite line so far
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:02:45 AM): love the description of the masks
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:03:05 AM): Yeah I need to get the description in for the other 2...soon as we draw them.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:06:34 AM): "The chaos and prism of all things."

forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:07:15 AM): Before time was time there was the crow.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:07:23 AM): thats my fave
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:07:37 AM): Cool
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:11:34 AM): From the end of that I will be able to splice 8 pages from something I wrote before.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:11:46 AM): That should tie up chapter 1
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:12:23 AM): So in dark ritual it is said he pecked the obelisk before chanting a spell to unwrap reality.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:12:32 AM): is the spell written?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:12:48 AM): No, was that confusing?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:12:56 AM): not at all
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:13:28 AM): i think the perfect close to chapter one could be the actual spell the crow spoke
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:13:42 AM): How to incorporate that will be tricky
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:14:10 AM): perhaps...just a thought
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:14:24 AM): No it's a good idea. I will for sure agree with that.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:14:56 AM): or if it is short it could be put right after that say in latin and then translated
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:15:26 AM): like ordo abba chao un foctum est
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:15:39 AM): order out of chaos is the essence
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:15:44 AM): or something like that
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:16:08 AM): i love lacing latin into things
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:16:17 AM): It's a cool language for sure
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:21:43 AM): So any thoughts about all of it?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:22:36 AM): just finished
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:22:54 AM): its perfect
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:23:20 AM): add the latin and some very minor edit and bam
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:23:29 AM): awesome
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:23:38 AM): we have ourselves a quest
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:24:05 AM): does fracture seek its chain?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:24:21 AM): is it drawing the remanats back to itself
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:24:33 AM): remnants
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:24:37 AM): Not really. It's more like spread out indicating it's influence
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:24:45 AM): ah
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:25:00 AM): good
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:25:18 AM): this is powerful
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:25:44 AM): and seriously the edit is minor...your writing has evolved tremendously over the years
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:26:11 AM): Not sure how. Maybe I've just grown up. I haven't written things in years.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:26:27 AM): i love it more than peporonni pizza and LSD
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:26:33 AM): lol
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:26:49 AM): Did you see the completed painting?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:27:00 AM): not yet on fb?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:27:05 AM): Yeah it's on FB
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:28:23 AM): The painting seems alot darker then it appears in the pics
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:29:33 AM): nice color choice on the perimeter
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:29:45 AM): really pops out the interior
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:29:48 AM): Really? I'm kind of undecided as to whether it was a good choice
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:30:04 AM): i likes
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:30:15 AM): finished
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:30:22 AM): feels nice huh?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:30:34 AM): Yeah it really does...it's a new feeling for me.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:31:32 AM): So you think the humor type stuff is at place despite it being a dark story?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:31:50 AM): like the speaking in unison thing, and the poking with the cane, and the touching of the eye
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:32:09 AM): no we need some humor...it breaks things up a bit...you dont want it too heavy
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:32:16 AM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:32:30 AM): i wouldnt repeat the speaking in unison
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:33:08 AM): I thought about having a side story where Taeran goes off and buries his students or whatever
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:33:35 AM): aidan dies
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:33:43 AM): who else dies?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:33:46 AM): did i miss that
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:33:49 AM): Everyone else
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:33:56 AM): ?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:34:10 AM): um...Corran?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:34:10 AM): uh oh...i must reread
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:34:20 AM): oh in the group
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:34:29 AM): not the village right?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:34:33 AM): Right
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:34:37 AM): k
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:35:09 AM): That was just a camp of 4 people or so in 3 tents. Taeran, Corran, Aidan, Graven
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:37:10 AM): We have yet to see a village.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:37:42 AM): Maybe I mistyped something
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:37:53 AM): no your good
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:38:11 AM): i just assumed a village
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:38:33 AM): I really want to do my next painting of your bird if you are cool with it
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:38:37 AM): It's very abstract
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:39:46 AM): rock on
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:40:11 AM): take anything i do and do what ever i ain't married to none of it
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:41:00 AM): I really hope we end up with a tangible real book that sells. I would be ecstatic if I just sold a few thousand copies
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:41:14 AM): Not for the money. Just to get something out there.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:41:56 AM): Money would be nice though lol
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:42:27 AM): we will this is good stuff
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:42:42 AM): so that is ch.1 done right?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:43:34 AM): Yeah it seems it's done. Nine pages or so. Might be a good idea to have 12-15 page chapters but either way.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:44:05 AM): dont bother with numbering chapters
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:44:12 AM): if its done its done
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:44:26 AM): Alrighty
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:46:34 AM): I noticed you've been framing your drawings, new habit?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:47:41 AM): this single feature has sent my art to a new level
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:47:52 AM): before the frame i was lost
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:48:32 AM): now that i have bondaries and have given myself permision not to draw the whole image...wow liberation
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:48:46 AM): ha go figure
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:48:54 AM): i know
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:49:17 AM): i didnt have a clue this would be the case until i started using it
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:49:31 AM): i read scott mcclouds book understanding comics
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:49:41 AM): it alows me to work smaller too
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:49:45 AM): hence faster
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:49:59 AM): before i would work in feet instead of inches
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:50:20 AM): now that it is inches i can crank out usually at least one good image per day
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:50:33 AM): That's really interesting
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:51:49 AM): as soon as chapter one is finalized lets post it to the permanant site and i will send it out for review...and start promoting it on fb and twitter
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:52:57 AM): Cool...well in your opinion it's pretty much done right?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:54:55 AM): yes
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:55:11 AM): the quest has begun
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:55:43 AM): Ok I posted it. If I make any changes or revisions I'll repost it
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:56:13 AM): this is truely a fine piece of work my friend
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:56:56 AM): I hope so.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:58:44 AM): So I think the Runic era should end with Graven ripping his eye out, getting it burning hot and stabbing it into a human.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:59:05 AM): possibly
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:00:07 AM): hmmm
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:00:35 AM): we can toy with it
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:00:46 AM): sounds exciting
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:02:31 AM): There will be a time travel element later in the future. In the technology era...we could have Graven disappear only to pop back up at the end
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:03:10 AM): i definitely want some time travel going on
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:03:26 AM): alternate realities too but muted
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:05:31 AM): We may just have an interlude like *********** in this chapter and continue it
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:05:43 AM): All the books I have chapters are 20 pages
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:06:36 AM): 20 is a good number but dont let that stifle you...besides we has illustrations that will go in it too
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:06:46 AM): yes we has
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:07:31 AM): i am about to post something i am playing with...check it
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:08:09 AM): What is it?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:09:53 AM): bird obalisk photoshop
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:10:24 AM): posted
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:11:00 AM): That is really bizarre looking
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:11:33 AM): is bizarre good or bad?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:11:52 AM): It's good
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:11:58 AM): Really good
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:12:08 AM): there is this animation feature were you can wrap the image to a sphere and make it spin
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:12:10 AM): It has some areas that need touching up
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:12:30 AM): I really like the black though
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:12:42 AM): indeed
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:14:47 AM): do you use photoshop?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:15:04 AM): No. I sed to know it very well but that was back in school years ago.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:15:08 AM): *used
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:15:42 AM): Make the moon dark blue
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:17:48 AM): see post
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:18:01 AM): Cool
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:19:53 AM): see post
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:20:33 AM): wow what is going on with the tree
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:21:11 AM): Cool stuff
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:21:18 AM): its alive!
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:21:44 AM): I suppose I need to go to bed, you going to be online tomorrow...today rather
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:22:01 AM): in the evening
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:22:31 AM): Ah alrighty man. See ya tomorrow. Glad we got some good progress today.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:23:08 AM): me too...night..
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:05:49 PM): Hey dude what's kickin
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:11:08 PM): Workin like a hebrew slave...u?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:12:22 PM): Not much. About to get to writing productively I hope.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:14:04 PM): So are graven & the medicine man done...he is off to his exile?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:14:51 PM): Yeah, unless you had something in mind
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:23:38 PM): Any ideas for the next part of the quest? I love the part about taking his eye out to stab a human...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:24:58 PM): Well the next part of the quest involves Graven finding a crystal cave where he learns to use the runes and from there...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:25:59 PM): He ends up going to the forest to seek the other chaosgifted. I am going back and adding that no one has ever returned from banishment.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:27:25 PM): So he never returns?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:27:58 PM): Intersting...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:28:10 PM): No, he finds the others who were banished. They have become primal. He finds them and ends up being their teacher
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:29:41 PM): Awesome...you are on sir...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:30:09 PM): All this stuff is already written. I'm going to have to rewrite it though.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:32:37 PM): Sweet...that is unfamiliar to me...but it rocks...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:33:01 PM): Remember the story I wrote about the guy killing the beast with a boulder?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:34:25 PM): Keep this in mind if we ever get stumped on one era...we can arc over to another era and run them concurrently.like ch 1 is rune...ch2 is gainqwhatever a so on.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:34:40 PM): Good idea
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:35:00 PM): Don't remember that one but death by boulder is delicious...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:35:23 PM): You've read it but it was long ago
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:37:53 PM): I'm sure I have...
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:39:04 PM): Gotta run...client is here...he is 93 & burned a cd for my secretary...she is 51 & he is hitting on her...wants her to go to france with him...shels cuban..
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 4:39:18 PM): ROFL
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 4:39:56 PM): I know right...he won't let up...its hilarious...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:12:15 PM): I am stuck on this paragraph. It's not flowing well.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:44:48 PM): Email it to forrestjones2010@gmail.com & I will look at it...
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:45:15 PM): Or what is the flow if its short message me
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:48:16 PM): Sent
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 5:52:25 PM): get it?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 5:55:26 PM): Looking now
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 6:26:45 PM): Get a chance to read it yet?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:28:56 PM): Whatt is the last line? My email on my fone is acting funny...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 6:29:51 PM): The crystals proved too intricate for him to complete a rune sequence and so he thought...and thought before finally
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:30:28 PM): Ok...i did read it all then
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:30:58 PM): How long do you plan on leaving him in the caven
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:31:06 PM): Cave?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 6:31:26 PM): Um a long time. He goes insane. 5 years
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:32:04 PM): hmmm
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 6:32:34 PM): I don't want to spend alot of time on the cave. I just want to describe what happens there and say 5 years passed.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:33:24 PM): Monolouge can be a trap...if you interrupt him with something..either in the physical or in vision it will break the monlogue out into a dialouge where you can
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:34:31 PM): Flesh out detailes through the characters questioning each other instead of the narrator having to do all the talking
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 6:35:38 PM): I was thinking that one of the previous people who were banished could find him. I need some help I think.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:37:30 PM): Can anyone from another era see through time/space?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:38:33 PM): scratch that
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 6:38:49 PM): Not that I have invented yet. He could be visited by someone who turns out to be someone else later in the book. Like a holographic projection or something
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:38:49 PM): What I said
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 6:39:37 PM): OH! It could be Aidan...It could be someone else impersonating Aidan
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:40:05 PM): That is the direction that I was ging but I thought it might be to abstract...
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:40:50 PM): It may be as simple as a banished guy finds him...they develope a relationship & begin to discuss what he is doing in the cave...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 6:41:26 PM): Hmm. This is a stumbling block
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:41:35 PM): I could so tie Siren to the cave seen as an observer...
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:41:45 PM): Scene
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:44:54 PM): Any thoughts about placing siren in the scene...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 6:45:19 PM): A silent observer could work. We definitely need more elements in this scene
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:46:36 PM): Siren...the chrome character...she could duel role without effecting the major outcomes of either storyline...
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:46:59 PM): Vonnegutt uses this mechanism all the time...
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:47:47 PM): Shared chacters...but very muted...they are usually the minors & are recycled here & there
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 6:48:56 PM): hmmm...I'll see what I can do. We'll have to be very careful what we do at this point.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:49:22 PM): Why?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 6:50:21 PM): This is a big plot point with him going insane, I want it to be pretty serious. He may kill the person who tries to help him.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 6:51:32 PM): Having a time traveler witness him kill someone may be interesting if he is seen as a hero in the future...
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:51:44 PM): I can write this piece...i understand how serious it is...i wasn't thinking anything comical...i can make it confrontational & achieve insanity...
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:52:14 PM): Hmmmm
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 6:53:58 PM): I like the idea of a hero falling or getting blackmailed in the future.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 6:55:16 PM): Intersting
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 7:07:19 PM): Did this help?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 7:07:39 PM): Yes. Still coming really slow though.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 7:16:59 PM): You want to write some you said?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 7:18:27 PM): I have a cave scene in mind...what are the high points about what he wants to convey & I will work some magic tonight
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 7:20:36 PM): About 5 years had passed and the scout is now an aged being from obsession, deranged from his compulsive fanaticism. The surrounding areas littered with chalk written notes. The entire mountain system abounding with elaborate notes and sketches.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 7:20:59 PM): He's not a scout, this is just the kind of situation that evolves that I had written about before.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 7:29:24 PM): Ok I posted it to the rough draft site.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 7:47:52 PM): Ok I will do some tonight...i am excited...
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 8:26:05 PM): rock
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 8:38:52 PM): my friend Jessie James likes you drawing of The Artifact...and another friend of mine Michael, also a writer said "bloody brilliant"...
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 8:39:19 PM): Jesse is the creator of Billy Purgatory...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 8:40:03 PM): Brilliant in regards to the writing?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 8:40:43 PM): know the picture you drew of the artifact
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 8:41:01 PM): i have not shown the writing yet...do you think ch 1 is ready to show?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 8:41:09 PM): no...not know
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 8:42:30 PM): I think Chapter 1 should be shown. I'd like some feedback despite it not quite being complete
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 8:42:42 PM): done
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 8:44:12 PM): We need an official editor who can check for consistency etc
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 8:45:46 PM): agreed...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 8:46:00 PM): What is this you sent me?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 8:46:37 PM): i just copied you in on an email to a reader...a friend of mine named Michael Olivares...you should friend him on FB
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 8:46:58 PM): Give me the link to his profile
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 8:47:40 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 8:49:50 PM): http://www.facebook.com/micheal.olivares
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 8:50:52 PM): What did that guy mean about 2 books?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 8:51:08 PM): that is something he is writing
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 8:51:21 PM): ah ok
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 8:51:36 PM): he has started writing recently maybe a year or so...he is nowhere close to our genre
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 8:51:54 PM): Ah ok
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 8:52:09 PM): Is he an english major or something? or just a friend?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:01:48 PM): just a friend
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:01:59 PM): i know him through Jessie James
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:02:07 PM): yes tht is his real name
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:02:13 PM): haha
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:04:24 PM): When you are writing that runic stuff he is going to have to learn through the years how to make rocks and crystals only, by writing runes and by speaking eventually. He also ends up building a stone tower in a ritual
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:04:55 PM): That's the stuff I wrote before anyway.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:05:25 PM): ok
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:05:48 PM): It's not 100% necessary but it seemed like some cool stuff
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:06:31 PM): I really don't know what direction to take it. Use your discretion
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:09:20 PM): dig
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:09:32 PM): so his skills are rudimentary yes?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:09:55 PM): meaning he is not building the tajmahla and space flipping through time
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:10:10 PM): michael will be our first reader
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:10:52 PM): lol yeah, rudimentary
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:12:25 PM): Finding our transition into Gaian life is going to be diffucult.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:12:43 PM): Do your friends have yahoo? We can chat in conference box
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:13:54 PM): jessie does...he isnt much of chatter...i dont know if michael does...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:14:05 PM): Ah ok no worries then
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:15:00 PM): ch1 is in the hands of 2 people now...soon to be a third
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:15:52 PM): I hope we don't have copyright issues. That kind of stuff scares me
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:19:17 PM): how would we? what do you mean?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:19:30 PM): I mean I hope you trust these people
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:19:38 PM): i can have it copyright protected this week...
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:19:45 PM): oh
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:19:52 PM): with my very life
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:20:18 PM): i have known Jesse since birth we grew up together
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:20:41 PM): Cool
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:21:10 PM): give me a couple of weeks and i will get it copyright protected through the lib of congress
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:21:27 PM): That would be a safe bet.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:21:42 PM): i will do it soon
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:30:44 PM): Apparently the eye on my mask is way too high. Just noticed
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:30:46 PM): d'oh
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:31:55 PM): i still ove it more than puppies
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:31:57 PM): l
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:32:13 PM): It's not my final. I'll get it fixed soon enough
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:33:32 PM): dig
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:42:45 PM): i have good news
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:43:10 PM): oh?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:43:26 PM): are you writing in ms word?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:43:36 PM): FreeOffice.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:43:41 PM): It's a free office program
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:43:47 PM): what are your margins set to?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:44:10 PM): I think 1.5 inches
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:44:46 PM): standard novel formating calls for a smaller margin...think of the common book...i put ch 1 in that format...21 pages sir
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:45:08 PM): Oh wow
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:45:16 PM): i know right
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:45:32 PM): that blew my mind when i first put the chrome into the proper format
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:45:40 PM): my chapter one was 30 pages
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:46:08 PM): anywho...multiply by roughly 2 in the future
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:46:11 PM): :)
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:46:26 PM): ok i am going to write now...toodles
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:46:41 PM): Btw I am almost done with entropy
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:46:55 PM): black jesus!
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 9:49:16 PM): do you realize that 20 pages is 10% to a finished work? 200 pp=novel
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 9:50:30 PM): That 90% is a long ways away lol
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:09:00 PM): As he carved he heard a noise emanating from beyond the edge of the cave. Moving to examine the cause Graven edged around the side of the cave to see that someone had been watching him for sometime. He cringed as a reflexive posture caused him to retreat for a moment in fear as to what or who was observing his runic testing ground.

cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:09:39 PM): Cool
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:09:42 PM): Good so far
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:10:00 PM): Siren spoke softly, "I will not harm you."

"Who are you and why are you here watching me? Ho long have you been here?" Graven replied a bit angered.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:10:29 PM): "My name is Siren. I am merely a passer by in the woods and heard the the cave songs. I heard the music and it lead me to you. I have been drawn here by the harp and the lyre embedded in this earthen glass temple. Do you come here to worship?" stated Siren calmly.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:11:14 PM): "I worship nothing and no one. I am alone. I bow down to no wood or stone. There is only one entrance to this cave how did you get in?, Graven demanded.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:11:54 PM): "I came by way of the night air. I travel in silent darkness and you see me now only because I have allowed you to see me, but Graven this is not the first time you have arrested your gaze upon me. In dreams you have circled me in flames. You have breathed your passions to me in the deepest of night. As a child you knew me in dreams. I am your inverted black iris.", Siren's voice
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:17:02 PM): trailed off and became hypnotizing.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:19:24 PM): In dreams you have circled me in flames. What is this?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:19:46 PM): just made it up
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:19:58 PM): Oh ok. I thought maybe it referred to something
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:20:23 PM): What does Siren look like? You need to describe her
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:20:30 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:20:48 PM): Go easy on the chrome :P
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:21:03 PM): whatcha mean?

cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:21:16 PM): I mean on the use of that word.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:21:27 PM): i am not going to use it at all actually
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:21:38 PM): Your call good sir.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:21:39 PM): i am going to let it remain unsaid
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:21:44 PM): seriously
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:21:49 PM): i thought of that already
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:21:54 PM): keep it muted
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:22:03 PM): i may even take her name out
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:22:08 PM): place holder
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:22:19 PM): perhaps its her cousin
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:22:22 PM): It's working so far, go with what ya feel.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:22:42 PM): i only want this character here to bring out Graven's attributes and purpose
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:22:58 PM): "I will not fall prey to you black devil. Leave here at once." The cave echoed and shook with the force of his command.

"Does the one who is banished also wish to place me in exile?

cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:27:56 PM): Back sorry I am about to post entropy
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:28:16 PM): sweet i posted a potential model for Graven
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:30:26 PM): Might wanna make sure to note that the cave shook because it's crystals and not because he's powerful
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:30:45 PM): We can correct that later though. Keep going.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:33:03 PM): k
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:33:51 PM): Keep in mind we have yet to establish the morals of Graven. We have no idea what kind of person he is
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:34:13 PM): The cave echoed in acoustic perfection and shook with force.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:34:22 PM): Nice
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:34:29 PM): I posted Entropy Mask
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:34:30 PM): yeah he is a beast
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:35:07 PM): who does not know the difference between vision and reality
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:35:09 PM): At that moment Siren with her left hand caused the roof of the cave to open up to a dark star speckled sky. The four masks that Graven had originally seen and explained to Iboga appeared and descended into the space surrounding Graven. He viewed each mask in awe. He walked slowly around each one reading again their plaques and eyeing the obalisk and crow. Then in an instance everything melted away from his vision as he regained consiousness.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:35:35 PM): NICE!
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:38:05 PM): https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjxacXYgDF-KEguD7cpYYgGU4vQ_ar5uWBurYlWkoas3XQPYP8r5dAlj9LlVBMrRCvrpeRKrCG0qXlDKGm59XecdlOfgk9LAHT_1C7c3LTpRTkTXxfTXInZDhAMI073hHSYiyRQcnAuDbs/s1600-h/001(2).jpg that's a rough draft
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:40:43 PM): sweet mother of goat shepphards...love the nose...it rocks!
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:41:08 PM): The nose huh? :P
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:42:14 PM): the whole thing
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:42:30 PM): but the nose being strait
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:42:32 PM): looks
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:42:32 PM): It needs something. I don't know what yet.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:42:40 PM): macabeesque
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:42:46 PM): ?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:42:47 PM): dark...
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:42:51 PM): macabre
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:42:54 PM): oh gotcha
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:43:01 PM): lovecraft
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:43:21 PM): Siren was dressed in a body length trench coat that dripped with calcified, blackened scales, perfect in there precision they danced like the faces of a storm projecting fractals upon the chrystalne interior of the cave.

cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:43:44 PM): Interesting
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:46:43 PM): "Damned visions." he blurted out upon waking.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:46:54 PM): Day followed night as time passed away. Weeks followed days and months followed weeks which eventually dissolved into years. Graven kept time in the beginning of his exile but soon lost track. Vision and reality blurred continuously dissolving boundaries. He quickly learned that his exile and prison of solitude was two fold. It was to protect his brothers from himself and also to contain the plaque of what would become his greatest gift; his core descending into the rune.

forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:47:30 PM): plaugue
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:47:51 PM): Really good, liking it
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:51:32 PM): quick question
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:51:40 PM): aidan where is he did he die
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:51:51 PM): He's Etherbeast chow
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:51:57 PM): ok
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:52:18 PM): and graven saw him die?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:52:27 PM): or does he know he's dead
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:53:03 PM): He saw his dead body being dragged off. I guess he could be unconscious and dragged off but he was mauled pretty bad.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:53:24 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 10:53:39 PM): just checking for my own consistency of storyline ty
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:53:47 PM): np bob
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 10:58:58 PM): If you're feeling froggy leap
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:00:28 PM): ?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:00:45 PM): What? I can't make random inane comments?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:00:54 PM): but ofcourse
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:00:57 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:01:13 PM): i wonder if a book has ever been written with this kind of process?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:01:27 PM): back and forth between 2 people?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:01:35 PM): not that
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:01:43 PM): but im and fb and blog posts
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:01:52 PM): ah
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:03:12 PM): To Siren time was irrelevant. Her irreverent nature for rules would have it no other way. Only moments had passed from the retreating of the four masks in the cave with Graven, but several years had been added to Graven's face as she was many visions removed from him now. He did not recognize her but rather saw her in the form of his etherean brother Aidan as she had intended.

cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:03:43 PM): Oh one thing.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:03:51 PM): Graven doesn't age unless he loses purpose
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:03:51 PM): yah
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:03:59 PM): thats right
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:04:01 PM): thanks
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:04:03 PM): np
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:04:43 PM): but several years had been added to Graven's character as she
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:04:44 PM): ha
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:04:45 PM): Etherian, good word
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:13:54 PM): "Aidan is it you brother?", said Graven with a glad heart.

"But Aidan I saw you die. Your carcass was carried into the wilds near Iboga's...als another crag dream come to torment me are

you." said Graven in despair when he realized his lucid dream.

"If anyone must visit me in purgatory I would have it as none other than you dear Aidan. Come let us sit. Let us have meed."

Graven grew to the farthest lonely point in himself realizing that if he did not interact with his visions then he would interact with no one. So he played along thinking to that he may be delaying his inevitable madness by a few choice days or perhaps years.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:14:15 PM): alas
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:14:48 PM): alas?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:14:57 PM): right
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:15:12 PM): instead of als
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:15:16 PM): oh
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:15:16 PM): typo
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:24:52 PM): The two men sat in the geode cave and talked of simple things as they enjoyed the meed and laughter and kind words.

"Graven what brings you to this cave and why have you stayed so long?"

I was exiled years ago. A threat to our kind. Aidan you and I know that I have always been a threat and a boar. I have always found myself buried in the fringes. I hunted alone because most feared me. They did not understand my hatred as you did. I did not hate my fellow man but took their hate and bore it. This has brought me here to this place. I came of will to bare a balance for The Ether in captivity.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:25:06 PM): Why do you not roam as you once did? Why so long in one place with no wife, children, and stable? Why have you not sought out the other exiles?

Other exiles?

Yes the others. Why have you not joined them. It has been five years Graven?

cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:25:49 PM): I'
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:26:03 PM): I'll have to go back and change some things if we are making him this intense
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:26:08 PM): He was kind of lighthearted before
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:26:18 PM): hmmm
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:26:43 PM): would five years in a cave make you intense
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:26:57 PM): :-?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:27:27 PM): True enough. But referring to his time with others saying others feared him etc.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:27:41 PM): ok...augment at will
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:27:51 PM): it helped me to a point
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:28:09 PM): No worries. Go where it takes you. We can adapt later
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:28:12 PM): i realized why he is tied to the cave
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:28:16 PM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:28:31 PM): i realized a function of purpose
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:29:00 PM): Sounds good
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:29:59 PM): no i was out of character
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:30:06 PM): forrest realized why
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:30:10 PM): he was tied to the cave
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:30:23 PM): I know nothing of time. I know only of purpose. I know of no others because when I get to far away from the crystals my ether fades and if it fades to far then i perish. So i remain here until death or time frees me.

cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:32:08 PM): That sounds good. He lost all other purpose in life short of controlling his power. That works very well
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:33:33 PM): now that i understand this concept the character will write itself because we must first ask ourselves as writers how does this action serve "Purpose"
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:34:02 PM): My purpose must be fulfilled prior to freedom Aidan. As it is with all purpose. This is how our people chose lands to roam and mates to wed and fields to plant and letters of the law.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:34:13 PM): Before all this his purpose was to have friends and be a productive part of his tribe etc. Easy stuff
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:34:47 PM): right...see forrest can learn
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:34:55 PM): lol smart ass
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:35:06 PM): i was being serious
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:35:09 PM): This is how we chose war over silence.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:35:34 PM): :">
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:35:49 PM): ;)
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:50:05 PM): question?
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:50:08 PM): suer
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:50:10 PM): sure even
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:50:27 PM): graven is in the cave to learn his trade
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:50:30 PM): skill
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:50:36 PM): basically yes
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:50:42 PM): you said he earns to make rocks
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:50:47 PM): what else
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:50:53 PM): crystals
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:50:54 PM): how high does his skill go
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:50:59 PM): ok
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:51:11 PM): what aare the importance of the crystals
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:51:15 PM): he can shape and create rocks and crystals
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:51:37 PM): The crystals are transparent and before the only runes he saw were on the surface of things.
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:51:50 PM): The crystals reveal that they are actually 3 dimensional
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:52:21 PM): so what about that makes them important to the reader
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:52:30 PM): to spend five years in a cave with him
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:52:52 PM): hmmm how to describe it...
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:54:30 PM): Basically the fact that they are 3 dimensional is the reason he was failing in trying to create rocks etc. The problem is that it takes alot of practice to get the gesture right for each stroke. Picture like chinese symbols
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:54:54 PM): first reader alreadr read chapter 1
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:54:56 PM): see email
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:55:23 PM): ok thats good to know
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:55:43 PM): Hmm he said it's a hard read.
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:56:06 PM): even dumbing it down...wow
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:56:19 PM): take his reading with a grain of salt
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:56:27 PM): Why do ya say that?
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:56:29 PM): he likes madonna
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:56:32 PM): lol
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:56:42 PM): thought you might like that
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:56:53 PM): there will be harder critics in the future
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:56:57 PM): I like madonna lol
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:57:01 PM): ROFL
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:57:05 PM): poe and tolkien...thats nice
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:57:22 PM): oops:-t
cagedmind0531 (1/26/2010 11:57:26 PM): ROFL!
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:59:48 PM): try to access the blog
forrestjones2010 (1/26/2010 11:59:59 PM): i got booted out
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:00:13 AM): working for me
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:05:09 AM): I logged out just in case
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:06:22 AM): good i will get back in in a sec
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:06:30 AM): taking a short break
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:06:34 AM): np
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:06:44 AM): ok back to a question
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:06:47 AM): k
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:06:55 AM): he discovers 3d
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:07:04 AM): what ultimately does this mean
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:07:24 AM): it seems we need a little more than just knowing
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:07:24 AM): Ok for example
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:07:38 AM): oh hmmm
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:08:24 AM): He could learn a verb. Like resonate. A verb basically tells what he summons to do
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:08:49 AM): I don't know. Throwing ideas out. Thinking
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:08:53 AM): k
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:09:22 AM): Are you wanting to spend more time on movement/action/characters then how he actually learns things?
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:10:08 AM): no...just want to understand the importance or motive behind his purpose
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:10:25 AM): ok he learns this what happens after that
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:10:34 AM): where does he go after the cave?
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:11:18 AM): OH! He has learned all the cave has to offer so his purpose is no longer there, but to study life itself. Plants, animals etc.
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:11:23 AM): So he goes to the forest
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:11:36 AM): That good?
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:12:29 AM): Or
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:12:38 AM): maybe he chases someone for some reason
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:13:59 AM): hmmm
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:14:14 AM): OH!
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:14:30 AM): Maybe someone is dying and he goes there to learn how to save them
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:14:40 AM): *shrug* not sure
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:15:48 AM): np now i will stay in tha cave a little longer
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:16:08 AM): WAIT!
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:16:13 AM): He destroys the cave!
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:16:14 AM): just needed to know if i fully understood his reasoning for being there
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:16:20 AM): On accident maybe
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:16:21 AM): i like tht
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:16:27 AM): perhaps
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:16:41 AM): it will come when we need it but i like the last one the most
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:20:02 AM): i cant get into blog
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:20:06 AM): odd...
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:21:32 AM): You know I think I actually write better when there is more then 1 character. I am always trying to find something for them to do or say.
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:22:05 AM): they can play off of each other tht way
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:22:14 AM): kinda like we are doing in real time
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:23:25 AM): brb
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:26:29 AM): finally got back in
cagedmind0531 (1/27/2010 12:26:34 AM): cool beans
forrestjones2010 is typing a message.
forrestjones2010 (1/27/2010 12:26:50 AM): hey i lost that entire convo on a reboot...can you post it to blog?