The Masks

Four masks interlocked in dreadful stare

Observation changing all before

Entangled weave of gazes entwined

To make all, that once was not,

Now there


Four masks caged in pained haunt

To build, To burn, To act, To plan

A raging storm with no end or halt

The vortex spiral of dreamland


Four masks making haste to plan all fate

Fighting for a secure place in the abyss

Longing to fill a thirst they cannot sate

Creating chaos in darkened mist

Friday, April 16, 2010

convo 4.15.10 with jason

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I'm here
forrestjones2010
k computer acting funny
cagedmind0531
That sucks
forrestjones2010
i am good now
cagedmind0531
So what's been kickin
You there? I have an idea for the end of the book. I dreamed it.
forrestjones2010
here
go
cagedmind0531
Ok so Graven wakes up after some event to find himself in white surroundings with blinding light. His only refuge from the light is a mercurial door. He opens it.
Inside the door is a rather large room, similar to a hunting log cabin lodge. One each wall is a mask and on the walls are portrayals of events all throughout history.
In the corner a humanoid crow sits in a large lounge chair near a crackling fire with his feet sitting up. Graven takes in the room before noticing a book stand in the corner of the room.
He proceeds to the book stand and places[instinctively] the book upon it. Slowly it begins to animate, flipping through the pages quickly and efficiently.
forrestjones2010
i will be in and out...but keep going
cagedmind0531
All I got so far
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
I just picture the end of time as this big hunting lodge where each masks showcase their best work along each wall.
The crow sits in the corner comfortable and content with their competition. Kind of mocking it.
Just ideas.
forrestjones2010
k...
still in and out
cagedmind0531
opinions when you get a chance
forrestjones2010
will do...still in and out
cagedmind0531
What time will you be free?
forrestjones2010
in about 15 minutes
cagedmind0531
k
word up
forrestjones2010
sup
making it rain man
rain
cagedmind0531
You available yet?
forrestjones2010
not yet...still makin it rain...
cagedmind0531
Well I am going to take a nap then I guess. I didn't sleep well last night. I'll message you when I get up.
When I wake up we'll get some work done if you're free.
I think I may need you to finish this chapter. I am really stuck on it. We'll discuss it tonight.
forrestjones2010
k
k
morning
cagedmind0531
What's up
forrestjones2010
sup?
things are a little slower today
yesterday was hairy
you there?
cagedmind0531
here
Yeah I waited for quite a while yesterday then gave up. Figured you were busy or something
What time will you be free today?
forrestjones2010
i am here
cagedmind0531
So what did you think of the lodge idea from yesterday?
forrestjones2010
let me read it now
yesterday didnt end for me until 11pm
my brother is going through a divorce
and needed a friend last night
cagedmind0531
It's cool I understand
be right back in 5 minutes. mom is calling for something
forrestjones2010
i like
the ending
i finally figured out the tripple crossover that wont effect the integrity of The Ind
triple
cagedmind0531
What do you mean crossover? elaborate
forrestjones2010
k
The Ind is a creation story right?
so distant past
you know how different cultures through out time call things by different names but they are actually the same thing?
cagedmind0531
yes
go on
?
forrestjones2010
sorry
teresa needed me for a sec
one thing i had to do in my mind before i moved forward was reconcile Billy The Ind and Phillip Solomon
cagedmind0531
np
forrestjones2010
with out
effecting the integrity of The Ind
we wont be writing about any of the crossover points
I just had to set it up in my mind such that the infrastructure was in place for the future
if that makes sense
cagedmind0531
kinda lost as to what you are talking about. I get crossovers and all that but where are you headed
forrestjones2010
it involves The Soliton
The Chrome
Billy Purgatory
and Phillip Solomon
theses are all things that cast no variance for what we are doing now
i just needed to sort it out in my head
back up for a moment
cagedmind0531
ok
forrestjones2010
the different cultures identify in the past present and future different things
Phillip Solomon is a God like character
an evil God
cagedmind0531
Not in this book though
forrestjones2010
keep in mind we wont write this
right
it really doesnt have to be talked about here if you want to get back on track
its just a piece i had to write for the future universe writings to mke sense
*make
cagedmind0531
Kind of need to discuss what to do about me being stuck. I can't write this chapter anymore.
I've tried and tried and tried
I don't know if it's just this chapter or if I've lost my touch or whatever but something needs to be done.
lose ya?
forrestjones2010
ok where are you stuck
jason you will never loos your touch
loose
cagedmind0531
Preparations for stopping Iboga were well underway. The idea of him taking another life, or for that matter getting anywhere near the Gaia tree repulsed not only Graven, but the entire populace. They worked together making sure the traps were secure and the nets were competent and unforgiving. However nothing could prepare them for the arrival of the golem. The ground quaked and trees split as he entered the forest intent upon his goal of paradise to enter where he was not welcome, the afterlife of the Gaiasphere.
He stomped and he stormed in the thirty foot monstrosity lined with runes and all manner of pumps and gears. They grinded, screamed and screeched as he approached and Axium's nets seemed but humble strings snapped on his path to ascendancy. The first set of traps were utterly useless. There was no way they could have predicted the monster to be so gargantuan and powerful. Once he entered the city Iboga ignored all impediments.
That's all I can get
I can't get past that
forrestjones2010
wow
cagedmind0531
I just don't know where to go with it
Or what to do with it
forrestjones2010
ok...let me process
where are we by chapter
and page?
cagedmind0531
This will be the end of the chapter....I think
page 180ish
This could be the end of the chapter but more then likely need something else.
forrestjones2010
k
what chapter/
?
cagedmind0531
10
forrestjones2010
k
and it is toward the end already right?
cagedmind0531
Yeah more or less
forrestjones2010
what is Iboga's goal other than general destruction
cagedmind0531
He wants his spirit to enter the sphere
I guess. That can change.
Could just scrap it all. Nothing I have wrote lately has been worth it to me
forrestjones2010
hmmm
the writing itself is Hawt
we can find the direction
does he succeed?
in entering?
cagedmind0531
He succeeds in drilling a hole in the sphere
But he still can't enter I guess
forrestjones2010
where is our hero and what is he doing/she
cagedmind0531
Hero is here thinking of how to stop Iboga. Coordinating traps etc
I figured he could succeed but then the tree would strike back at him and throw him into the pit of wax
or something
forrestjones2010
thinking
who needs to become more 3d?
Kaylyx?
cagedmind0531
Kalyx
yes
forrestjones2010
lets have her shine with a big role to defeat Iboga
it would get him dead and work her in as a powerful figure
cagedmind0531
Yeah I can agree with that but I still don't know where to go with it.
Plus I have to consider how this affects the future. The machine is going to be something Asimov is interested in.
There?
forrestjones2010
yes
had to take a call
cagedmind0531
ok
forrestjones2010
brb
back
gotta run...appointment for work...fj
back
you there>
?
cagedmind0531
I'm here
forrestjones2010
Siren's origin is a place called Hunab Ku
i have been working on that too
cagedmind0531
ok
forrestjones2010
i have been working in analog lately
journals
Hunab Ku is the black whole at the center of a spiral Galaxy
how are you?
cagedmind0531
I'd be better if I were writing more but I'm not
forrestjones2010


you are doing great jason
really
perhaps the pasue is needed to process
cagedmind0531
I have been totally stumped man. I know thinking positive and all that is supposed to help but it hasn't
forrestjones2010
ok
whatever gets you by
cagedmind0531
I'm trying to be less negative
I really am
forrestjones2010
dharma
i accept you how you are
right now
today
my friend Jason
the badass writer
cagedmind0531
You going to be online tonight?
forrestjones2010
yes
cagedmind0531
What time is good?
forrestjones2010
you?
cagedmind0531
Yeah I'm going to nap a while but I'll be on all night if you can be
forrestjones2010
yeah...i will coffee up
i was on at 2 this morning
cagedmind0531
What time? 9-10?
forrestjones2010
yes and maybe earlier
cagedmind0531
Ok I'm gonna nap and I'll be on later. Message you then
forrestjones2010
k
sup?
cagedmind0531
Just woke up
forrestjones2010
all appointments...done
Coral's Death Print is the blue print for The Artifact right?
cagedmind0531
yes
forrestjones2010
k
I have started making the artifact...its an interactive puzzle with moving parts...
cagedmind0531
That's interesting
forrestjones2010
i am using your picture as my blueprint...will post pictures as i progress
cagedmind0531
ok
forrestjones2010
how ya feelin?
cagedmind0531
Ok I guess.
forrestjones2010
good
cagedmind0531
I think I found an angle....maybe
forrestjones2010
sweet...whatcha got?
cagedmind0531
"Our only solution is the ramp. We must defeat him on the ramp and see sure to encase him in the wax," Adahn exclaimed emphatically.

A ramp had been designed in order to delineate the exact route that Iboga would take to get up to the tree so the traps would assuredly be triggered. Along the route a large log had been counterbalanced to carry a large cauldron of wax kept above an open flame. The counterweighted log could easily direct the wax to the series of pits dug beneath the ramp where Iboga's golem and spirit were intended to be entombed.
"We could collapse the ramp upon him to send him tumbling to the pits but the wax will have to be on call immediately." Graven surmised.

"I can try to call upon Gaia's natural defenses. The tree is more then capable of dealing with threats to it's safety, however Iboga has entuned the resonance of his machine so that Gaia will not sense the threat till it's too late. She must be warned somehow..." Kalyx continued to seek an answer.
"Let us focus on the pits Kalyx. I do not believe we are capable of communicating with Gaia directly, I have tried for many years in vane." Graven rebuttled.

"We don't need to communicate father, simply warn her. Send her the intent of danger and surely she will react."

"Enough. We don't have time for whimsy. Even if she did react the tree could endanger all of us, we have no idea what it is capable of."
"Graven, it's Gaia. She's still there. I can sense her."

"The tree consumed your mother, we can't risk it doing the same. I am in wonder at the tree as well everyone else but it is too dangerous."

"But father.."

"No, I will not allow you to call upon Gaia. She has done enough and it is her time to rest and ours to act. We must stand united on this Kalyx."

"Very well father, we will focus on the ramp."
I'll give you a sec to read that while I get some food
What do ya think?
I'll be right back then. Gonna get a pizza.
forrestjones2010
i read it
direction is good
it furthers establishment of Kaylx and introduces family conflict
rock
headed home be back online then
coffee up
cagedmind0531
word up g
forrestjones2010
its been a good day
cagedmind0531
That's good. How's that?
forrestjones2010
business wise my work is fun again
and now i get to write
cagedmind0531
That's good
So what's kickin sir
forrestjones2010
relaxing and thinking about iboga wax
cagedmind0531
We could totally sell it as surfboard wax
forrestjones2010
sounds marketable
cagedmind0531
Iboga, for when you wanna hit the wave back!
lol
forrestjones2010
helz yes
cagedmind0531
So...
What if
Iboga decides to tunnel under the tree instead of assaulting it directly
Then Kalyx decides to call on Gaia and when she does Gaia collapses the pit into the warrens and it traps Iboga...or something
forrestjones2010
then they all realize together that Gaia IS sentient or respondent
cagedmind0531
Not sure the repurcussions of that.
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
So anywho
forrestjones2010
right
cagedmind0531
So about the lodge idea
We never really talked about it
forrestjones2010
its got potential but i thought you were against that type of ending a while back
i presnted something similar and you gave it a no go
cagedmind0531
No the reason I brought it up is because it incorporates alot of your ideas from before
It's very similar to what you suggested with some grounding changes
forrestjones2010
it seemed familiar
i think it has good direction and can work
cagedmind0531
Ok so chapter 11
is almost here
What are we doing for 11
forrestjones2010
ah a new chapter
we probably need to go back and look at an older outline
just as a gauge
in earnst i believe i need to reread from beginning to present
cagedmind0531
yeah I was afraid you'd say that
forrestjones2010
is that bad?
have you done the reread yet?
cagedmind0531
I just like to keep pushing forward but I see your point.
No I haven't yet.
forrestjones2010
it was just a thought
not necessary if you dont want to
cagedmind0531
I'm going to need to print it out. It's too annoying to try to read it on the computer.
So we can for sure get this going again now I think. Finally
forrestjones2010
indeed
i really just had to get that crossover thing straight in my head and get caught up on Billy
i am clear now
just need to reacclimate and start rolling
cagedmind0531
That'
That's good news
forrestjones2010
yeah i am totally clear
meds are on point
relationship is good
work is good
and corporation is going pretty good
i am on full go...sorry if i layed out to long
cagedmind0531
It's ok
So because of Iboga they learn about warrens that exist beneath the tree
forrestjones2010
i apologize if that frustrated you
cagedmind0531
no worries
forrestjones2010
so 11...i want to look back at the blog for an outline
has Graven been a leader in ch 10?
i keep thinking quest
cagedmind0531
No not really. I don't think so. He's trying to reassert himself a bit at the end of 10
forrestjones2010
and i want siren to show a lighter side i need to go back and finish some things too
i want the artifact to show up
claim its position
the scalping
just processing
cagedmind0531
k
So we really need to figure out how much more space we have to cover before we can start writing the ending.
forrestjones2010
yes...what are the high points...what has not been done
or said
about the universe
that must be said
cagedmind0531
First off we need to figure out where Asimov starts and initially learns about the artifact and how to create it.
Is he programmed with the info or...
forrestjones2010
i feel as if Iboga ends the creation
and we go into a "present" time
and then a future setting
ah
cagedmind0531
The present will become the future later, that is only temperary
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
That sounded kind of paradoxical
lol
forrestjones2010
lol
cagedmind0531
We should have that on the front of the book
The past will become the future later
lol
forrestjones2010
he he
cagedmind0531
So what's the plan Stan
forrestjones2010
thinking
scene and time shift after iboga's second death
what are the Large arcs?
cagedmind0531
hmmm good question
forrestjones2010
how many do we have left?
cagedmind0531
Um
I'm thinking
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
we need origins for almost all the characters
Asimov, Graven, Siren
forrestjones2010
true
thats a substantial amount of work in itself
cagedmind0531
Graven may not really need an origin because he wasn't really anything special till the eye came
forrestjones2010
i dreamed of the spike last night
i held it in my hand
and a version of the Artifact a mini version
cagedmind0531
Not really sure what arcs are left honestly. Maybe I need to reread some stuff myself
forrestjones2010
we nailed it one day in an outline format i am looking for that
cagedmind0531
Kalyx needs to be developed. We need to get to the end of Gaia's time which explains the beginning of the AI's time
forrestjones2010
agreed...this is paramount
cagedmind0531
So what even signifies the end of Gaias time
The real cultural death of Gaia
That causes people to forget her
*event
That even will end the second set of chapters and lead us into the third I think
event*
forrestjones2010
it can be ended by a non event
such as apathy
people just moved on
quit worshipping
cagedmind0531
moved on past god?
forrestjones2010
quit caring
yes
cagedmind0531
hmmm
forrestjones2010
just a thought
people sometimes get tired of him/her not showing up and just move on
like f this gaia stuff...skank never did anything for me
cagedmind0531
They could realize that the reality is that Gaia has no control of their lives, her only place is for their spirits
forrestjones2010
that works
cagedmind0531
where as technology has instant gratification
forrestjones2010
enter a new machine
cagedmind0531
That could do it.
forrestjones2010
lets do it...sonds solid
sounds
cagedmind0531
Is chapter 11 the place to end the era? that leaves the rest of the book to deal with the end already
forrestjones2010
i believe so...the first era feels done to me
cagedmind0531
Yeah, we can add stuff here and there but it seems to me the real 'happenings' are gonna be in the future
forrestjones2010
thats the feel i get...
the 2nd drft of the first part will be allot of stylizing...
but the events are nailed solid
cagedmind0531
This has been productive so far
http://the-ind.blogspot.com/2010/02/ind-overall-story-arc-february-112010.html
Is that what you were looking for?
I'm gonna get off the computer a bit. I'll be back on later. This was productive. Got alot sorted out. I need to think on it.
forrestjones2010
sorry
my brother just found out his wife is seeing someone else
had to take his call he is in allot of pain
i will brb...give me 15 or so
cagedmind0531
oh my god
forrestjones2010
no shit
this world is fo fucked up
brb
cagedmind0531
please take your time. I'll be back in a bit
forrestjones2010
k
ty
back
cagedmind0531
Is he ok?
forrestjones2010
he is in shock
cagedmind0531
How did he find out?
forrestjones2010
facebook...how 14 is that?
cagedmind0531
wow
seriously?
forrestjones2010
yep
i wish i could say i cant believe it
but nothing is shocking anymore
cagedmind0531
Is he getting a divorce?
Did he confront her?
forrestjones2010
yes and yes
cagedmind0531
wow
forrestjones2010
they hve both filed i think
cagedmind0531
geez
Was there any signs?
forrestjones2010

wrong one
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
anyway...refocus
i have a new Siren pic
posting
posted
brb
cagedmind0531
k
forrestjones2010
i am going to rest
night if i dont see you later
ON
i thought about the ending...Love it
just a little distracted last night
rock
cagedmind0531
really?
that's cool
I figure it blends both our ideas together
forrestjones2010
it totally works
i likes

The forest was thick dark and green with the aromas and musks of all kinds

filling the airs at every turn until Amisov walked into a clearing.

Axis spoke to her softly, "Let us not disturb them just yet and see who is the wiser."

Asimov was usually a willing participant to his silly games an compiled with

relative ease.

They peered into a 15 foot circular clearing where the four great masks had

been discovered by Graven and the nobles long ago. They where immaculate in

their construction and rivaled the very artistry of the Gaisphere(insert more

description of the masks in the clearing here). Two large figures sat stoic in great concentration dressed in full deep forest cool teperature regalia; heavy coats, sweaters large draping(wizard) head ware so as one could not ea
could not easily make out their faces.

Their body movement suggested that of old friends...

cagedmind0531
Yeah I've read it before I believe
forrestjones2010
i need to post this to site i think...its a possible ending i wrote a few weeks ago
ok
good
i reposted just in case
did you see the new siren sketch
in red?
cagedmind0531
Yeah I did
Loooks pretty strange
forrestjones2010
par for the course i suppose
be out for a bit...fj
back
morning
there?
cagedmind0531
I'm here now
forrestjones2010
me too!
and i am not that busy
cagedmind0531
How goes things? Talk to your brother?
forrestjones2010
yeah...he has good days and bad days
thanks for asking
cagedmind0531
Of course. I met him once or twice didn't I?
forrestjones2010
yeah...hurricane i think
cagedmind0531
Ah ok, not my finest hour
So anyway how goes work?
forrestjones2010
awesome
last day of tax season
i can breathe again
cagedmind0531
haha that's good
forrestjones2010
i am soaking the wood that will be the gaiasphere
today i carve
and sculpt
cagedmind0531
That sounds fun
forrestjones2010
what re you up to?
cagedmind0531
Nothing really. Just woke up.
forrestjones2010
sweet
cagedmind0531
So Beth will be over around 11 tonight. Other then that I am free to work whenever, so just give me a heads up
forrestjones2010
i can work from now until whenever
cagedmind0531
Ok so we need to hammer out chapter 11
forrestjones2010
lets roll
cagedmind0531
So let's say that they just defeated Iboga and trapped him in wax. That and Asimov just opened the vault. That's where we are more/less.
There?
forrestjones2010
brb
sorry
call came in
cagedmind0531
It's fine
Let me know whenever you're ready no rush. I'll be playing a game
forrestjones2010
k
back
cagedmind0531
k\
give me a sec, need a sandwich
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
so anyway
now what
forrestjones2010
ch 11
this is what i was thinking
corals death
is the end of the age
which gives birth in the form of the artifact to the new age
cagedmind0531
The age just started
ages last like 1000 years
forrestjones2010
?
cagedmind0531
We had the runic era, now it's the gaia era which lasts a long time till people fall from it and into the tech era
forrestjones2010
ok
semantics
age was the wrong word
so the era is over and tech starts with the artifact
cagedmind0531
I was thinking the tech era starts as people wane from Gaia and Syrka invents the AI sometime late in the era
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
The trick is how to show that several hundred years have passed before the era ends
forrestjones2010
indeed
that is a feat
cagedmind0531
ok so we need to figure out what happens after Iboga is delt with and after Asimov opens the vault
forrestjones2010
refresh me on asimov and the vault
cagedmind0531
Asimov brings Syrka in to interrogate him on how to open the vault. Syrka reveals he is Asimov's creator. Syrka also let's on that he is to open the vault of his own free will because he knows it's necessary for the last stage of the IND[the book] to be completed.
forrestjones2010
k ty
cagedmind0531
Then Syrka kills himself before Asimov can interrogate/torture him
I imagine that Syrka was just finishing the second part of the book just as he got captured. That would make sense
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
Ya with me or are things hazy?
forrestjones2010
with ya
cagedmind0531
So now it is revealed what the vault contains and what Coral's deathprint actually was.
And from there I don't know
forrestjones2010
deathprint=atifact blueprint
cagedmind0531
yeah
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
So we should probably flash back at this point to when Asimov first started seeking his immortality
I imagine it was created, then it began to observe itself and man and realized that at the rate man was going it would destroy itself leaving all the computers to rot, thus ending the AI's 'life'.
So it begins to research. It finds the history of the Gaiasphere and the book changes it's proverbial life.
forrestjones2010
processing
the book meaning The Ind changes its life?
cagedmind0531
No, just some random book about the history of the Gaiasphere. How it was the advent of souls etc
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
so half the chapter is a flash back to when Syrka created the AI etc, what's the other half
or is it a 1/3 of the chapter and the other 2/3's can be about siren and or Graven/Kalyx
forrestjones2010
1/3 syrka
2/3 graven/kaylx against something
to unite them against something
perhaps against siren
cagedmind0531
So one route we can go is that iboga damages the Gaia tree and it needs to repaired or something
forrestjones2010
we could have a group repairing
while graven/kaylyx unite quest against siren
what if siren takes part of iboga
as he is destroyed
she is a weapons collector
not a major part of him
cagedmind0531
We haven't really established her as a weapons collector. Are you going to do that or...?
forrestjones2010
just something that she thinks she can use
eventually she will need to be established as such
it fits in with her merc status
quasi merc status
cagedmind0531
Well she can be if that's what you want but storywise there isn't a need for it. Just saying
We could have her stealing a part of Iboga for Asimov
forrestjones2010
it is part of her core modus in the chrome
gatherer of talent and weapons
and yes for AI is fine
she collects for various reasons
not always to hoard
cagedmind0531
We'll need to go back and do some rewriting in order to make her want weapons. Cause if we go that direction I don't want it to be half way
forrestjones2010
thats fine
i can handle that
its just a nuance
doenst effect core story
just a curtain in a room
brb bathroom
cagedmind0531
What if Kalyx eventually appeals to Gaia's defenses and it backfires or something. Causes the tree to become tainted or something.
forrestjones2010
thinking
cagedmind0531
One problem we have with the book is that the earth doesn't seem big and populated
It feels small and secluded
forrestjones2010
it does...
cagedmind0531
That needs to be fixed
We need to add a wide world...somehow
forrestjones2010
future?
cagedmind0531
We could but I feel some of it has to come from the past
forrestjones2010
k
hit it from both angles or times
cagedmind0531
Yes
Do we need to create another sister or something?
sister city
I mean
forrestjones2010
perhaps
and reference lots of extended characters
large families
cagedmind0531
What if we create a character from somewhere else
forrestjones2010
that could work too
cagedmind0531
Like a pilgrim who comes to visit the Gaia tree
From far away
forrestjones2010
i like that
cagedmind0531
names?
forrestjones2010
Rutherford Cane
cagedmind0531
No to Cane. I feel it's overused
forrestjones2010
Arcane
cagedmind0531
hmmm
forrestjones2010
Black Zen
lol
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
Rocky Balboa
cagedmind0531
You know he wrote rocky in like 2 days
forrestjones2010
i know
cagedmind0531
rediculous
forrestjones2010
yo adriane
punc punch
grunt grunt
he cant write no dang gaisphere
cagedmind0531
ebaneizar
forrestjones2010
yes
dig
cagedmind0531
scrooge!
forrestjones2010
less the scrooge
cagedmind0531
lol
forrestjones2010
Eben Azar
cagedmind0531
That works, sounds exotic
forrestjones2010
lol
do any of our characters have last names
Graven Hodges?
Sirend Davis
cagedmind0531
No they don't. That's easy to add later though
forrestjones2010
i just thought about that the other day
Sorenson
Son of Soren
cagedmind0531
Eben Azar Trenchgoat
forrestjones2010
i like Trenchgoats
cagedmind0531
I thought you might
forrestjones2010
he he
cagedmind0531
Sounds very sophisticated
This world being too small thing is a serious problem
It's going to take alot of work to correct it
What if
Graven holds a summit or something
Of all the elders from all the tribes
forrestjones2010
it can be nuanced in an rewrite 2
cagedmind0531
What do you think about the summit?
forrestjones2010
summit works
cagedmind0531
To discuss a problem? or...
forrestjones2010
iboga
gaiasphere
direction of the world/cities
trade
cagedmind0531
WHAT IF!
forrestjones2010
crime
cagedmind0531
Gaia had a seed, the first one ever. They are deciding whom should get it. We could even make a war over it if we felt like it
forrestjones2010
i like war
cagedmind0531
So this works? A summit over what to do with the seed?
forrestjones2010
yes
so what does the seed do
cagedmind0531
We really need to discuss other factions possibly and other interests.
forrestjones2010
what does it grow into
cagedmind0531
Another tree, another spirit vessel
forrestjones2010
rock
siren can introduce some more of her kind
peyton
cagedmind0531
You realize with this added on it's gonna be another 10-20 pages of rewrites and additions
forrestjones2010
yes
i am not in a hurry are you?
cagedmind0531
Nope.
forrestjones2010
i was at first
not anymore
i want this to be amazing
cagedmind0531
It's just intimidating to go back and try to insert stuff like this
forrestjones2010
tell you what
since you like to go forward
go forward
create a document of what has to be added
and i can focus on that
i dont mind rewrite or addition
we will probably disagree less this way
and it will help to ground my end
cagedmind0531
Mainly we just need some outside world introduced somehow
Other clans. They don't have to be that different
forrestjones2010
i think i get what you mean and need
cagedmind0531
But maybe representatives from those clans show up to discuss the changes happening once the Gaia tree is born.
forrestjones2010
nothing bizare just fill up the joint with life
cagedmind0531
and yes
forrestjones2010
right i am on board
cagedmind0531
It can be as simple as referencing another city
sometimes
forrestjones2010
what if i start the first rewrite/edit and begin to add life
right
cagedmind0531
that sounds good
forrestjones2010
thats what i will do
cagedmind0531
Do you need me to mail youu the master document?
forrestjones2010
i will help you get unstuck if it happens and begin to edit/fill /rewrite
yeah go ahead
cagedmind0531
sent
forrestjones2010
sweet
as always i will add names as place holders for cities and people
they can be changed whenever
cagedmind0531
When we're done this will put us over 200 pages easily.
forrestjones2010
wowsers
have we discussed planets and the sun
cagedmind0531
Not really
forrestjones2010
or sciences
k
sun worshippers
religions outside of gaia worship
we need to have a group who thinks gaia is not the way to go
dissenters
cagedmind0531
True. That's something big we need to pan out
forrestjones2010
just for variety and clash
cagedmind0531
Rune worship maybe
forrestjones2010
rune worship
sun worship
iboga worship
The Necantors worship ibogas darkness
or something
they try to become demons and cut themselves
and dance and chant and slay
cagedmind0531
Maybe Iboga was worship was common and now that he's a spirit it's been elevated
forrestjones2010
i like
saint iboganovana
jj
cagedmind0531
It doesn't sound that bad lol
gonna lay down a bit, lot to think about now
I'll be on later
forrestjones2010
k
cagedmind0531
this is falling into place now
If we can pull off all the stuff we discussed